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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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What is going here??

Ok what's your best guess as to what's going with my Mini below?

I'll give you a hint - both sides of the car are the same.....



 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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you have S-lites up front and holies at the back!!!!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Mad Science..
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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You had your car on the dyno and wanted to see what the effect when running the heavier s-lites?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheFlies
Ok what's your best guess as to what's going with my Mini below?

I'll give you a hint - both sides of the car are the same.....
Yup, S-lytes with 17" tires in front and 15" Holeys with 205/55-15 tires in the rear. Why?

Also you've got:
Aero grills on bonnet and front bumper
Carbon fiber bonnet scoop
White wheel arch side light markers
Darkened non S side vents
Dual cowl scoops
Side door edge guard
Front Mudflaps
Stubby antenna
Helix13 side window sticker

And you have a rubber ducky on your dash good for an extra 5 HP!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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you got ur mini twin charged..!?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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a couple things wrong here,

1. yes, they are different wheels
2. you appear to be going for the "blacked out" look(tinted windows, blacked side marker) but the bumper side marker is NOT blacked...
3. DOT appointed license plate number, not presonalized...NOT Pimpin!
4. orciari hood scoops, but no orciari ground effects

5. SOMEONES BOOSTING YOUR CAR!!!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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being in nyc i doubt you are lowering your car..
you could have an exhaust, but that doesnt go with the both sides are the same thing...
so I am gonna say you are getting aero kit side skirts put on..or vinyls
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheFlies
I'll give you a hint - both sides of the car are the same.....
You have no gas cap?!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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I say you're getting pleasue out of making us guess
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisneal
You have no gas cap?!
he also cant manually unlock his doors....what if that little battery dies?

In all honesty though, if something were going ONTO the car...i'de also guess exhaust, looking at the wall in the back...looks like this guy does some exhaust work...

this picture thing is fun...
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Summer tire changeover? I did mine yesterday and have already enjoyed carving up some curves
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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judging from that banner on the right side... are you getting TEIN springs or coilovers?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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Actually, im gonna have to stick with

is getting taken...


by a very dumb thief that doesnt see the camera rolling right in front of him...
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisneal
You have no gas cap?!

I don't think many people got that one!
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 04:45 AM
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Awesome responses guys.

Originally Posted by SashaSolitaire
you have S-lites up front and holies at the back!!!!
Correct!

Originally Posted by K9MINI
You had your car on the dyno and wanted to see what the effect when running the heavier s-lites?
Even more correct! (though I think you might have had a little inside info from nemini.org - heh heh). I am waiting for Partsman109 to start a thread about our Dyno Day @ Swift MotorSports this past Saturday. You will all be stunned by the results I tell you. STUNNED.

Originally Posted by benzamg
Mad Science..
Nothing new going on there, eh?

Originally Posted by minihune
Yup, S-lytes with 17" tires in front and 15" Holeys with 205/55-15 tires in the rear. Why?

Also you've got:
Aero grills on bonnet and front bumper
Carbon fiber bonnet scoop
White wheel arch side light markers
Darkened non S side vents
Dual cowl scoops
Side door edge guard
Front Mudflaps
Stubby antenna
Helix13 side window sticker

And you have a rubber ducky on your dash good for an extra 5 HP!
Heh heh I've actually got a black hood scoop (not a fan of CF) and the wheel arches are the smoked variant as opposed to clear (though they don't appear that way).

And yes, the rubber ducky does add some HP!

Originally Posted by sprp85
you got ur mini twin charged..!?
Interesting idea for some, but not for me. I'm not to crazy about pushing the car to the limit.

Originally Posted by addamaniac
a couple things wrong here,

1. yes, they are different wheels
2. you appear to be going for the "blacked out" look(tinted windows, blacked side marker) but the bumper side marker is NOT blacked...
3. DOT appointed license plate number, not presonalized...NOT Pimpin!
4. orciari hood scoops, but no orciari ground effects

5. SOMEONES BOOSTING YOUR CAR!!!
Never been into personalized plates for some reason...And those are Mossmini cowl vent scoops - they are a bit taller than the Orciaris...

Originally Posted by MSFIT
being in nyc i doubt you are lowering your car..
you could have an exhaust, but that doesnt go with the both sides are the same thing...
so I am gonna say you are getting aero kit side skirts put on..or vinyls
Thinking about lowering.......

Originally Posted by chrisneal
You have no gas cap?!
Good one!

Originally Posted by motor on
I say you're getting pleasue out of making us guess
Most definitely!

Originally Posted by BostonMarkC
Summer tire changeover? I did mine yesterday and have already enjoyed carving up some curves
I did recently change from winter tires on holies to some Kumho Ecsta SPT's 205/55/15 on holies as well and they rock!

Originally Posted by crazyaboutmini
judging from that banner on the right side... are you getting TEIN springs or coilovers?
Definitely thinking about the Teins. I have heard that they will revalve and respring at no additional charge. Spring rate would be in the 445lbs/in area though a fellow NAMer has also said they have a 350lbs/in set as well. I will check into this.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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Please check out this thread for the dyno graphs!

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d=1#post883158

For a little taste of what you'll see.......



For reference, a bone stock 2003 MCS showed 140hp at the wheels.



My 2004 MCS with the following mods worth noting:

Helix 15% reduction pulley
K&N Typhoon Intake
UUC Cat-back exhaust
63mm big-bore throttle body from Minimania
Denso IK22 plugs
Upgraded wires (don't remember which)
Screamin Daemon coilpack




29HP difference at the wheels! Outside temp was right around 44 degrees F.
169HP and 169 lbs/ft of torque!!!

I ran two pulls with s-lites on my fronts and got this graph:

There were two different types of readings: DynotDynamics (unadjusted) and DynoJet (1.13 correction factor, I'm assuming this means the dyno was attempting to calc crank HP assuming a 13% loss)




As you can see the s-lites made a negative 17HP difference on the unadjusted Dyno Dynamics reading, and a whopping negative 30HP+ difference on the DynoJet reading!

Can you believe it??

Also for reference there were a couple of JCW MCS's there that were showed these numbers:

1: 155hp DynoDynamics, 170hp Dynojet
2: 165hp DynoDynamics, 185hp Dynojet

Meanwhile we had a 2005 MCS with a Helix 15% pulley and a Rogue intake (no other mods at all!!) showing this:

166.3hp DynoDynamics
181.5hp DynoJet








 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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you also have

predominately fluorescent lighting near the front of the car
and predominately daylight lighting at the back.

hence the green tint on the bonnet.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Hey LOF....no inside info from NEmini.org , Scott (pipe)stopped by my house after the dyno run and told me you were there..lol.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by K9MINI
Hey LOF....no inside info from NEmini.org , Scott (pipe)stopped by my house after the dyno run and told me you were there..lol.
Ah ha! I knew it!
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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What happend when you open the doors and boot????
 
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