Does anyone think driving with it on makes ur mini uses up gas fater? I havent driven with out it and i was wondering if anyone as??? Any experiences with this .....I feel like my mini uses gas up in the speed of light....I had a jeep wrangler bf this and it lasted longer...

 

I have kept mine on, of course I have only gone through one tank of gas so far at 33MPG, with mostly JBaround town driving in my cooper
JB

 

The device would appear to be only "engaged" when your wheels slip, so I doubt the gas mileage would be impacted.

Jim

 

I have the DSC because it came with the sports package, but it's the first thing I turn off when I start my MCS. Don't know about the gas question. I get very good milage - about 33 on average.

 

I too turn it OFF (when I think about it)...I recall reading about people getting "stranded" trying to merge into traffic...the system kicks in and cuts power when it senses wheelspin, as in an aggressive launch, and can hang you out to dry

 

We have just started to leave the dsc on, used to be the first thing we would turn off. It appears that the gas milage has gone down about 3 to 4 mpg.

 

I have one of Ian Cull's auto-up cards in my car.. and my ASC is OFF all the time.. except when it rains here in SoCal.


It should not affect your fuel mileage by itself. but it will affect it in a major way.. because it makes the car more fun to drive.. no hesitation in the corners.. tires chirping in several gears.. huge smiles on your face..

I would think I would use it more if I still lived on the east coast.. slick roads.. snow.. yecchh!!

 

I leave mine on, the DSC has saved my butt more then a few times in both dry and wet weather

 

DITTO for me. If you live where there are wet / snowy roads then the DSC is a life/car saver. Now, I cannot imagine how a device that uses computer code but does not add any hardware could affect your mileage in a negative way... esp. 3-4mpg.

 

On when I'm relaxed and off when I see someone come up on me real fast ...

 

How is that possible? Maybe you are filling up at different pumps, that can throw it off if your driving habits are the same.

regards,
Red

 

I leave DSC 'ON' most of the time and turn it off when I foresee a situation where I might need acceration (merging, starts at a stoplight to see how far I can get from the traffic behind me, lol).
My reasoning for leaving it ON is that you cant always anticipate defensive manuevers, etc, where you might need the DSC help.

Us coldweather folks also have 'black ice' to contend with, not sexy at all.

 

I'm no gear head, but it doesn't make sense that it would worsen fuel efficiency. If it brakes a wheel, that's a wheel that didn't have traction and would be wasting energy anyway. So whatever energy you loose from extra breaking would have been lost to wheel spin anyway. I figure it would be a wash. Either way, its hard to imagine that that small amount of extra breaking would have any cumulative noticable effect on mileage anyway.

 

I have ASC not DSC.I leave it on all the time.In dry conditions it hardly ever kicks in,and in winter conditions it works great.When I put my foot into it and the ACS kicks in,I'm talking snow and ice here,I know to back off a bit,then throttle up slower,but I'm still pulling away from most everyone else.
The only time I turn it off is when I get stuck and need to spin the wheels.
I have tried it off,but the wheel spin and lack of forward motion makes this not a wise choice.
And while passing on an ice covered highway and that light comes on,you know you may want to back off a bit

 

It definately has it's place in torrential rain, sleet,snow or wet leaves BUT the rest of the time I have it off

 

LOT15 that's a lovely post, from the perspective of another "DSC-Free" motorer (pending January 2005).

 

Let's face it, the only real complaint is that when you suddenly gas it, and get slippage, the loss of power can be nerve-wracking when you're trying to do a sudden move. I'll leave the preaching about driving styles to others Turning it off to avoid that is throwing away lots and lots of safety benefits (having nothing to do with driving skills) for the avoidence of a rare situation one can take into account if you learn how. I don't think this is a trade for the safer overall driving experience.

I track my car, where I turn it off, because any loss of power is loss of power:smile: , and you loose control until the computer has done it's thing . As one track coach told me "It's a slow system. Turn it off on the track for the fastest times". And I live in the hills, where the twisties are a way of life .

Two other points. The DSC is only really "invasive" in a couple of situations. One is when you're learning the car, and don't have it's balence down yet. But with familiarity, the frequency of these unwanted interventions decreases, so that I almost never have them happen anymore.

The other un-haralded aspect of the DSC is that it's a coach. If you hit the same turn every day, and can get deeper into it without the flashing yellow light firing off, then you've found a better line! I've gotten some turns where I can get the onset of 4 wheel drift with no light flashing! I guess the compter is saying "I'm stumped how to a) do this better or b) get you out of this mess!" I haven't figured which it means, but I'm doing more research!

As far as safety goes, none of us can see around turns, and there are no corner workers on the public roads to flag when there's a problem a head. I've had the DSC kick in at times when I've been very, very glad it's been there. What's a few 10ths of a second on a COMMUTE??????

Matt

 

A heavier right foot or a dirty air filter are more likely to increase your fuel consumption.

 

No DSC - Even better!

 

Ive noticed that with all the misc mods Ive dont the DSC likes to kick in WAY too much. Pulling out of parking lots is when I notice it the most.... really bogs down my ability to get into the tighter spots so I drive with it off 90% of the time.

It has also nearly gotten me into a bad accident. I have Kumho Ecstas on my MCS and they are definetely not the best rainy day tire. I had left my DSC on because I had been slipping around a bit, but I came to find out that was a bad idea. Going through a slow little roller on 84, no gas, just coasting around the turn (and NOT at excessive speed I might add) I started to slide out into oncoming traffic. So, as I am sliding out, I try to give my front wheels some power to try to grip the ground and regain some control of the road and pull myself back into my lane.. BUT, DSC didnt like this idea. DSC told me that I need to be 3/4 the way across the oncoming lane heading for the mountain wall. Luckily, DSC finally kicked off and I was able to get on the gas again once I was 3/4 the way across the other lane. Quickly pulled myself back into my own lane and decided that I was happy that no other cars had the desire to come barreling around the corner and smash into me while this whole ordeal was taking place.

Moral of my story: I hate DSC. Biggest regret about my MCS.

 

u know why your dsc didn't let you get acceleration until u got that far out?

because u had NO TRACTION, so all you woulda done without DSC is spin your wheels and crash

 

on the street, asc or dsc both are designed for safety in mind... and for those of us who aren't michael schumacher, it will save your life... on the street the only time i'd shut it off is when i want to canyon carve, and even then i might think about it first

now.. if im autocrossing or on the track, asc would inhibit alot of the stuff on the course so i always turn it off when im at the autocross...

keep it on in the winter...

 

The MTH cange to the DSC is amazing. Just keep your foot down while it kicks in and it still gives power, just less. But it still pulls for sure. The MTH could is worth the price for this feature alone.

Then you get the benefits of the DSC for safety, and almost completely mitigate the negative side effects. It makes it much "faster" than stock.

Matt

 

If you slid that much you were going to fast for the conditions,coasting or not.And if you have no traction,well, you have no traction.

 

Sorry, but no I wasnt.

A. The tires arent very good in the rain.
B. Without DSC I could easily have regained traction and pulled myself into my lane safely.

There were 2 MINIs in front of my, 1 with the all season tires and the other was Falken Azenis. I was travelling aapx 10 MPH slower than them the entire time because of my tire condition.