You all to to visit this site and read. This will keep you up and going if you feel sleepy. heheheheh
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Special Thank to TMMZ
http://www.ptcruiserlinks.com/forum/...55&whichpage=6

 

Funny to read some of it, but gets a little old on who's car is better.

A very good example of how a thread can get WAY out of hand.
Glad to see things don't go that way here.
Time to motor

 

That thread is an argument no one will win, just as a PT owner coming here and trying to get into the same type of thread in hopes of winning an argument. Some of those guys are pretty ignorant though with the PT's...every time someone said that they beat a WRX, Audi, etc.. in their MINI, some PT owner called bull**** and immediately assumed they were talking about the 1/4 mile...that was funny

The thing is, Road and Track, Car and Driver, Motortrend, etc...are not to be fully trusted in their reviews on how fast a car will do the 1/4 mile, or the 0-60 times...it's the driver that makes a difference...I can squeeze better times out of an MCS than what was quoted in those magazines, but only because I've been 1/4 mile racing legally at tracks for years, and know how to get the 60fts, know how to prep the car, etc...none of this was in a MINI, because I don't own one yet, but really, same difference. Those articles the PT guys love to quote about times were done with no weight reductions, no race prep, and with two people in the car at times Anyways, it's irritating just talking about it...but good post, I laughed out loud a few times during that reading

Dave

 

You can start a business by selling bread out of the back of one of those **** OF SHEETS.

PT Loser. POS Bread van.

 

I like onions, but you don't

What is better?

 

I really hope noone else here feels the need to go over there and make an *** of themselves.

 

I love this quote from the thread:
"They drive a glorified BMW."

But yea, I agree, I hope some of the posters over there weren't from here.
MINI owners shouldn't resort to bashing someone elses ride, especially on thier turf (forum). Imagine if the Lotus Elise crowd came here and started ******* on us?

 

you said it, brother!

 

That thread went just a little TOO overboard! Anyway to each his own. I personally don't like the look of the PT Crusier but there are those who think they look better than a Mini.

 

um...
you do know that the MINI & the PT both run a Tritec motor?
Maybe the PT has something different in a pumped version?

 

not to mention the thread is super old That thread over on TMMZ was like a year old And we over on TMMZ didnt start it...it was started over on MINI2...we just posted it so others could read...

 

I go through about 4 posts before that inane bickering put me to sleep

 

If you read the site, it doesnt seem like the US PT's get the tritec engine. In the U.S. I think that they get the same 2.4 thats in the Neon, or the 2.4 Turbo thats in the SRT Neon.

Comparing a PT to a MCS is comparing
apples

and "oranges".


I do like apples better though...

 

Yup, got no interest in PT's, except I thought maybe more engines means more parts and better availability. & maybe cheaper.
It never occurred to me that anybody besides Americans might buy a PT Cruiser!

 

 

 

I don’t get the point of trying to compare the two cars, the point of fighting on a different board or the point of this entire thread.

 

For me, it's parts availability. This town has maybe half a dozen MINIs and I'd read that PT's and MINIs shared an engine. But now I've looked at PT information and am better informed
HOWEVER, the PT has a 5-speed Getrag. Can I get parts for my 5-speed Getrag out of a PT?

 

Some guy in my neighbor hood has a blue PT with FLAMES on the side. Everytime he sees me on the streets he tries to race me.

 

LOL. Seeing as how you're average joe tends to lump the MINI, the Beetle, and the PT Cruiser into the same category, I do sometimes wonder as I drive by a PT Cruiser whether the person feels any competition (as some drivers certainly do, SUV drivers etc). It's funny to me, because I would never even consider the two cars to be in the same class, so I wouldn't even consider comparing them.

-mike

 

It was a Road & Track issue that ran the story and the bottom line was…

No matter what numbers came up for all the cars in the tests they were put through, all the critics said they liked the way the MINI drove best and put smiles a mile wide on their faces.

 

Man they aggravate me , Should of shown um the big list of cars MINI beat on road and tracks slalom course, this one guy says he has:Mopar BOV, silencers removed, cowl weather strip removed,Goldline slammers,CarPuter,Greddy Turbo Timer, rearview mirror TV, XBox, PS 2, Alpine Type X components, Pioneer AVIC-N1 Head Unit, fully sound dampend interior, custom fiberglass sub box, Rockford Fosgate Power HX2 15", Hollywood Audio Amps, red underbody neon, Inferno Red airbag cover, instument cluster, and center console, red door inserts, red headliner, APC Gen2 tailights(POS),removed hood and side emblems, tinted front windows.
Work in progress: Fiberglass headliner, Autometer boost,water temp, and Oil Pressure guages.,"


Great for him but where perf. stuff?

 

Pretty funny, images of people arguing behind keyboards come to mind. Those posts do get tiring. I have a 2001 PTC and really like it, that is until I drove a Mini. No comparison. It took me a few years, but I’m at the point of ‘just gotta have a Mini’. I’m just waiting for a nice weekend to get some nice pictures of it so I can put it up for sale. Once I get a buyer, then it’s down to my Mini dealer for a ‘S’!


Rich

 

2 conclusions I came away with after reading that thread

1. I always thought the PT Cruiser was one ugly machine. Now I kinda respect it and it is growing on me.

2. Dare I say it, but even MINI owners can be jacka$$es. No excuse for the "win at all costs" approach of some of those posters, especially as guests on someone else's boards.

I think PT and MINI owners have a common element--individuality, we are tired of the uniform box-shaped boring cars of the masses. I think MINI stands for more than that, including safety and environment friendly, but in the end they have more in common than other cars have in common. I really enjoyed the R&T article because I was planning to buy a Beetle Turbo for a long time before the MINI and I love their styling to this day.

 

trade in value.......ck a 2004 pt turbo and a 2004 coopers and see which has the better value.......guess which one ??? not even a contest....i speak from experience ....never again mini and mini s forever...