hi,

does anyone know what the stock 2005 MCS 1/4 mile time is? I know MINI claims 0-60 in 7.2 (which seems a bit slow) but I could not find the factory numbers for 1/4 mile runs. Also, is there a complete review with statistics of the 2005 MCS? I'm looking for something like one of the big car mags would produce...

Any help would be greatly appriciated!

(The benz is getting more and more boring as delivery date approches! )

 

umm... motor trend clocked 6.5 seconds 0-60mph on a recent comparo.

looks like mini was sorry about the last time they estimated 0 - 60 times.

 

6.5! that's great.


do you have a link to that article?

 

still open for answers.... anyone.... ???

 

I realize these figures are for the '03 (lower hp, different gear ratios, no LSD) but Road & Track got a 15.9 sec at 89.3 mph for the 1/4 mile. They got a 7.7 sec for 0-60 mph.

Don't know what you're expecting (??); the performance is respectable but it ain't no supercar. The '05 should be somewhat better, but would still get smoked by a Dodge Neon SRT-4 (but who the hell wants a Neon ).

 

Too True

 

But not by an 05 S Works!

 

Is that wishful thinking, or is an 05 MCS/JCW faster than a SRT4?

Rawhyde

 

I know this But who buys a Neon..............

 

The February '05 issue of Motor Trend had a comparo of the MCS, Mazda 3 5door, Focus ST4, and something else.

The article is not available online, but here is the road test results of the MCS.

6sp
0-60 6.4
1/4 14.8/95.2MPH
60-0 128ft
Slalom 66.5mph
MT Figure 8 27.5sec @ .63g

 

My best run with a G-tech pro was 6.5 0-60 and 14.2 and 100mph for the 1/4.

 

I just checked this issue out from the library, and 6.4 secs is what I recall. Are you sure it wasn't the Jan '05 issue, though? (I borrowed both the Jan and Feb MT, so I'm not sure.)

There was a lot of discussion of this when the issue first came out, here in the MINI Talk forum. The 05's have 7 more HP, much lower gearing (14%) in 1st and 2nd, and the MT test vehicle was a bare bones, no-options model - so light in weight (eg, no sunroof, no HK, etc.) and with 16" wheels (better acceleration). And FWIW - no LSD.

Pretty cool - almost as fast as a pre-05 JCW! I test drove an 03 MCS before I ordered my 05, and I remember thinking, wow, my car is fast! It definitely felt faster than the 03 I test drove. Now I know why.

I'll bet MT had an excellent driver and a good track when they ran that 6.4. I wonder how much better an LSD model would have done? And I'm looking forward to some reliable 0-60 times on the MCS automatic!

 

But add an LSD and 40 more HP, and what do you think the 0-60 times will be around? I think that they will be around the mid to high 5's, and for the quarter, maybe a 14.0

 

Remember that the '05 MCS used by M/T was a basic model with no options, which means, no heavy 17" wheels/tires and no sunroof. Thay may explain the better track times.

 

Heh, probably not. 40hp and LSD may drop the time to 6.1 at best, maybe 14.4 for the 1/4. Keep in mind LSD or not traction is the time killer here, at a certain point more power means more wheelspin.

 

Yes, that is true, but think about how the other cars do it, it's not like that's an insane amount of horsepower and torque, if you have good tires, they can handle it. On the stock runflats though, definately not

 

Oh absolutely, I agree, I guess my point is that +40hp taking the car to roughly 210bhp, is not gonna get you into the mid to high 5s, nor is it going to drop you to 14 flat. Not even with slicks.

 

In response to a previous post, the Neon SRT-4 can be factory-modded (MOPAR) to generate insane levels of power for not a lot of $$.....it would certainly leave a JCW MCS in its dust. Before anyone asks; no I don't own, or evn intend to own, an SRT-4

 

If you want a cheap rice thrill, I'm sure the SRT-4 is great... but it is one of the ugliest cars on the market

 

But it's still a Neon "Hi"

 

So the neon is ugly and the mini is slow... what's your point?

This IS a thread talking about quarter mile times... which is a little ironic considering the car in question. IMO, if you're a drag-racer you bought the wrong car. The neon would be a big step in the right direction... although I've never understood the desire to drag race anything FWD.

 

Actually, MINIUSA official specs for the 2005 MCS is 0-60 in 6.8 sec, 134 MPH top speed. This is probably a base model and no LSD since these times were given before LSD was available.

I, however, don't put much stock in acceleration time from rest, as so much technique (and potential for abuse) is involved. Interval times are much more realistic for road course and autocross potential.

 

[QUOTE=mielnicki]The February '05 issue of Motor Trend had a comparo of the MCS, Mazda 3 5door, Focus ST4, and something else.

Scion Tc and Mitsu Lancer Ralliart were the other two. BTW, the 05 MCS with those nice light OEM 16" wheels flat out hands down over the hill and thru the woods @105.3 HP/litre and lb/hp of 15 to 8 smoked the others into oblivion. Kinda unfair in a way.... Jimbo

 

I have a 1969 Chevy Nova SS396, 4sp, 396ci Big Block ported and polished .030 over, 1050 Holley DP, Custom Mandrel bent dual exhaust, 4.56 12bolt posi, NOS, and Hoosier Slicks. Dyno'd 498hp at the rear wheels. 10.90 @ 139mph 1/4 mile. a whopping 3-5 mpg on the street.

But the MINI is my daily driver, and my car of choice.

 

For the record, mielnicki was right - it is the Feb '05 issue of Motor Trend!