So they look good and made correct just looking at them. I ended up painting them and then I remove a rear arch from my car and go to see how the new widebody arch will sit and it's clearance and UNREAL it only has maybe 5mm extra of clearance vs my stock arch and then that's negated by the fact they made such a large lip on the flare inwards. Another issue is the leading edge IS NOT even and comes on and off of my body so I would have to trim down that leading edge to make it sit flush but then I'm going to loose MORE clearance doing so..
it claimed online that the rears were a 70mm flare and fronts a 60mm flare..now on my stock setup my tires poke about 3/4in or so, so if they flares flared as advertised they should cleared but are far far from doing so.. if I installed these widebody archs my tires ARE going to contact them and since they're fiberglass they're either going to crack or rip off of my car..
wtf do I do with these then to make them work ? I'm even kinda at a loss how to adhere them to the car since there's a lip directly under the stock archs and these are sapose to be sealed onto the body with wiwithweld but that again is impossible due to that gap. So to correct that I would have to mount these a few mm higher up onto the vehicles body for them to fit and once again I loose more outward AND underbody clearance having to do so.. I would also then need to drop my car to make up for the height at which I'd have to seal on these flares..
These are the biggest waste of 600 EVER..fricken ebay universal flares fit better than these things.. any help and advice PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME.
I can't risk tearing off all my stock archs , adapting these on and spending countless hours doing so only for them to be destroyed 1st bump I hit..
I'm running 215/50r15 tires on 15x8 et20 rims with 5mm spacers.
I will get more pics showing how bad they fit on in a day or so.

 

Why the 5mm spacers? Just curious.

 

to clear front calipers...
here's pics showing . There worse than I thought. I haven't even looked at the drivers side..look how twisted the rear flare is , I forsee it cracking or snapping. Then the rear is about an inch short. So I have a gap either at the rear flare on the bumper or at the bottom side skirt and it's so large there's no splitting the difference..
I've emailed them with my concerns but haven't heard back...
would it be shitty of Me to dispute the charges on paypal ?? If they were 300$ ok, fine I get it.. but at 600+$ and " ready for paint" these are ridiculous. To have them installed and looking decent is going to cost me a pretty penny ALONE in bodywork having to adapt and blend them on..
Thoughts ????

 

Too bad you didn't test fit before painting as that could impact your ability to get a refund. Not sure what the fine print says, but does their advertisement mention some custom fitting required or anything similar? If you part is a perfect reproduction of their mold, the fit is pretty poor so not sure why more people aren't complaining.

I don't see a lot of nice options to use them if no refund is available. Maybe fiberglass them to panels and spray body color?

 

At $600 I would expect those to snap in just like like OEM. Also, it would have been your best to test fit before paint, so you could have some chance at a refund. Since you painted them, I can see the company putting up a stink about a return…

 

I have to agree, you kind of lost your return leverage when you painted them. Don’t know what to say, but I wouldn’t fifer glass them in, could be a real mess if damaged.

 

You can't lay one on top of another and expect them to be the same length.

Their website says these are "manufactured to order" meaning that they make them once you order them, they don't have inventory. It doesn't mean they are custom made for your car.

You should have test-fit before you painted. That's pretty much a given with any part, but especially fiberglass parts. In fact, most fiberglass part vendors tell you that explicitly in their advertising and installation instructions. Fiberglass parts almost always require bodywork to get proper fit. When it says "comes in primer ready for paint" that doesn't indicate that there's no bodywork required. It's telling you what the finish is.

Per the vendor's T&Cs:
Section 5: "We do not warrant that the quality of any products, services, information, or other material purchased or obtained by you will meet your expectations"ReturnsYou'll lose if you dispute with PayPal. And yes, it would be shitty. They told you these rules up front. You agreed to them when you executed your purchase, whether you read them or not.

I don't think these are as poor a fit as you seem to. You'll need to do a bit of shaping prior to bonding them on, but they're probably not far off. Your "1/2 inch too short" on the rears probably has more to do with placement than poor product size. You'll need to decide if you want to spend the time/effort to make these work, or write them off as an expensive lesson.

 

Well for me; I don't see an apparent (fitment) issue - unless, when you fit them to the car they don't meet the trim / butt up on the ends or meet the edge of the hood / panel line.
The 'gap' pictured can easily be remedied by a simple pop rivet(s) (IMO). It's fiberglass and the metal will also flex a bit and should close the minor gap.
It would be best not to do anything until the weather warms up. Believe it or not, it makes a big difference....Unless you are in a heated garage.
Sorry for your dismay. I don't mean to sound pretentious.

 

I don't know anyone who's bought them. They actually used my parts for more photos once they made them.. I don't wanna put the company name out there yet but I did hear back and told them my exact concern and asked if they'd be willing to refund any of the money back so I could put it towards the work having them corrected..
I just ended up droppindry car off with my bodyguy so I probably won't have it back until March. But I'm probably going to have to drop my tire width down to clear these flares. I told my guy just do what yiu gotta do to get them on , if car needs repaint or what ever do what you gotta do..
I also am having vents installed into the hood...

 

there's absolutely no possibility of pop riveting these. They need to be molded into the body but we're supposed to be fit on from just sealant from behind..and no , they do not follow the body lines on the hood what so ever , it comes way down as it's was trimmed crooked...like I said 600$ was far far too much to pay for what I was given . The info was very vague on them other than saying comes ready for paint and ready to seal to car both of which , they wernt..and after they made my parts they updated the ad with pics if my parts like mine were almost the 1st ones bought besides prototype that was used in a few pics... ad also stated 60mm front and 70mm rear flare and both of which are not close to that amount of flare outward.

 

On a side note, was this car painted with a roller? More orange peel than Florida.

 

dang , well... is what it is and I'm just going to hope that it doesn't cost too much getting them fit
buy jfyi no where in the ad did it mention additional work was going to be needed to fit these. It kinda implys they are ready for paint and to be bonded to the car using window weld from behind.. but like you said above i might just be chalking this one up as a learning lesson, an unfortunate expensive lesson but atleast a lesson learned.

 

+1
'best decision made to get it done right by someone more conversant with "glass & mud".(FRP).

 

here's the problem . I gave the car to my bodyguy and I got it back with no fenders. He showed me how TERRIBLE the fitment is on these.. there's NO FIXING how bad one of the rear arches fit and there big gaps with the front ones unless I were to bend out my 1/4 panel below to make up the gap and that's not happening.
I messaged the company and was told " they're all made from a single mold so I don't see any problem with yours. They some heat to manipulate them. " some bs and then I sent pics showing how bad it was from my bodyguy and I've been ghosted ever since. I even asked if theyd be willing to refund a partial amount so i could use it towards having them somehow put on. thing is, it's a pretty good company from what I've been told but my experience isnt.
I did pay for these paypal and these were over 500$ and can't be used , not without serious SERIOUS modifications and even then that's a big if.
I'm half considering asking paypal to reverse the charges and forward them the info and see what they say. I just hate to be THAT guy. Do you feel this would a time be THAT guy ? I'm pretty upset about these , I sent my car in for bodywork specifically for these , ugh...

Doesnt follow bodylines

Gap

More gap , made short and angled way wrong

See how bad the rear lines up ?

Better view of the rear flare poor fitment

 

It said. ,"First generation wide arch kit that will fit all first generation cars.6 Piece kit comes in primer ready for paint
The aches replace the original trims and need to be bonded to your car.Made out of fiberglass,Extensions: Front 60mm - Rear 70mm,(new pictures coming soon).This product is manufactured to order and production time is 2 - 3 weeks" and when i messaged befor i purchased i was told they can be molded onto the body or sealed on from behind but nooooo wayyyyyy can mine be sealed from behind. They'd need ALOT of bondo and working to get them to match up to the bodylines and major bending of parts that I don't think the fiberglass has that much flex in it ,not even close..
I don't think more people's complained because I don't know ANY other mini guys out there who've installed these. That was my 1st thing i did was search around n hopes getting some pointers from someone with prior experience with these but I hit a dead end.

 

Here's pics how they SHOULD fit.. what could have gone so wrong with mine ? Maybe removed from the mold too early or the mold is junk ?? I'm just so frustrated.

 

Asked and answered 3 months ago:

 

well yes and no.. I wasn't promised a " ready for paint product " matter fact , they changed the listing 2x weeks after I received my purchase and had sent them the photos of the fitment issues and was told its normal..
if this is normal , this is worse quality fiberglass product than you find from the most back alley chineese seller off ebay..
I kinda just feel like saying " owell" this is gonna be an expensive " owell" and just chalk up my losses n move on.
but man , mine sure doesn't fit like in the pic aaaaaaaaat allllllllllllllllll.



you see how my thumb is on the leading edge ? Theres NO WAY the flare ,even with heat , you cant manipulate the curvature downward to follow the stock arch line without severely cracking the flare and IF it followed stock line , the leading edge would begin to fold in on its self. Aaaaaand THAT I was shown and told by my body guy saying he absolutely could try and get it buuuuut may cause damage to it that'd cause serious serious custom repair to get back ever usable.. totally TOTALLY NOT " ready to paint " that's was once stated in the ad ,when I HAD purchased them prior to the add specics changing. I personally wonder if it was changed and reworded to better fit the product they have because I may , MAY have had 1st order from that mold or who ever made mine , removed them from their molds too early and they dried uneven..lol out of the 6x flares , 2x..fricken 2x ONLY fit good enough to be worked abit to install , the other 4x no way no how.

 

Like I told you in my post 3 months ago--you are misreading the ad. "Comes in primer ready to paint" indicates the finish it ships with. It's not a guarantee that they won't require any bodywork.

You made rwo bad decisions--you bought these, without reading the return policy--because they have some, pretty strong language that would have made it hard to return for imperfect fitment if you had tried it before you painted. And then you painted before trial fitment.

You asked if you would be THAT GUYif you contested with PayPal. I told you then and am telling you again now--you will lose that fight. You own these. You should learn from this, experience-bargains often aren't.

I can make those fit, so if you decide to throw them away, DM me and I'll pay shipping to have you send them to me.

 

thx but no thx.i would had no issue with them if they were free either,willing to pay 500$ shipped ??? Exactly.
im gonna get a 2nd opinion later summer and look for someone who can specialize in fiberglass parts.
it's kinda funny though they did change wording in the ad after I contacted them and lowered the price , significantly ( though it says marked down 25 , its marked down 125 from when I bought them ). I'm just gonna let it go but I'm not happy with this businesses, when they knew they gave me a **** product. After trying to defend it until I showed them the poor poor fitment and ask if they ALL come so out of whack and I've gotten ghosted. I've sent 3x emails since EVEN ASKING If I could repurchase just 4x of the 6x flares out of a mold as those are the ones that are TERRIBLE for me. Still, no reply..
I get better customer service AND products off ebay, that's a shame. And rather than work with me AT ALL . I get ghosted and then they run and change their ad wording and pricing..that's very shady businesses practice if you ask me.
owell , I will just NEVER do business with that company again and will let my buddies know the same as theve seen the head ache 1st hand ive had with these.. hard to see how bad their fitnent is with just pics but there horrendous.
and you wanna know the truth , I HONESTLY think these flares are exact same as , I have a a sneeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaking suspension this company is just reselling duraflex brand sideflares . I've had duraflex bodyparts befor and you know what, these have the saaaaaaaaaame **** fitment as those. I just get a biiiiiiiiiiig feeling these were just marked up, resold duraflex brand..
because that mini I found they used in the pics , it's the same mini used FOR 3X different companies selling these wide arch kits. So if that really is the case , the company is completely scandalous. I'm half tempted to purchase a duraflex set just to compare side by side and use the best of the 2x sets. That's just one of the many vendors selling these fiberglass wife arch. I made the mistake choosing the company I did..
makes sense why they wont sell me just a few archs because they dont have a mold and they dont make them.to order. I think you order , they buy them ,get them and just mark them up and resell them as their own. Gotta be a way I can prove it.

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