I cannot decide between nitto nt05 or federal 595 rs rr in 205/50zr15s to replace my Aaaaaaamazing forceum Hena tires 😒🤭🤮 WORST TIRES EVERRRRRRRR ! How are those 2x brands vs the proxes r888r ??????? Anyone know of best priced place to order them then ???
with how far my car has come along , it's just stupid I continue to ride on the sorry excuse of tires I currently have on becuase all they do is look good but other than that they are some of the worst traction tires I've EVER had ! They don't even squeal or make a sound when they're spinning or breaking free either so noooooo warning when they're at their limits until BAM there not biting and the front ends plowing.

 

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaanybody got any input or 1st hand experience with either of the tire brands ?

 

Tires are replaceable items..!
Pick one...if you don't like them, try another...
NOT...Rocket Science.

Mike

 

you willing to pay for the 2x sets then ? Because it's not rocket science BUT it's common sense. Most people can't just buy a brand new set of 4x tires and drive them 100miles and belike " egh , don't like them . Ille just but the other set I was considering "....
Trust me, if money wasn't an issue I'd say F the research and just go toyo

 

Don’t have any direct experience with
any of these, but I see that the Toyo
has a tread wear rating of only 100
and is listed as a autocross/racing
tire whereas the other 2 are more
streetable with TW of 200 and 220,
and look more wet-friendly than the
Toyo r888r.

 

so I'm still new to understanding tires, so the 100 vs the 200 means it would be softer and there for stickier but better grip but yet trade off is faster tire wear.. am I correct in that assumption?

 

That’s usually true. YMMV.

 

If you are balling on a budget, go with Firestone Firehawk Indy 500. They are pretty sticky, work great in the rain, and have decent tread life. The tires you listed are streetable, but will wear very quickly and be downright dangerous when it's wet. If you are not tracking your car regularly, go with the Firehawk's. I did my first couple of track days on a set, and they were more than adequate for my skill level.

 

funny you mentiom that as I am considering those too since I have driven my buddies r56 with them and was impressed with them...but from reading those federal tires are seemingly more like the go to tire...they vs the firehawks or nittos have a deeper tread n longer life without sacrificing too much for that...

 

I had a different experience with the Indy 500’s. Not sure if it was because the contact patch was a lot larger, 245/40/19 F and 275/35/19 R, but the car aquaplaned a few of times on a straight section of freeway in the rain.

That reminds me of the 930 Turbo I saw in LA with a set of dually’s back in the day.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/39529/...car-in-the-80s

 

First, you need to determine your vehicle use when considering tires. Daily driver? I wouldn’t look at anything with less than a 300 tread wear rating, unless you plan on driving in cold or snowy weather with them. Then, pick the tire that falls into your budget. The mentions Firestone Indy 500 tires have been getting great reviews, and the cost is reasonable, too.

If you want to learn, go to tirerack.com, enter your tire size, and filter by “Category,” then take notice of the UTGQ (tread wear) rating. Then, read as many reviews as you can take. I’ll do that, then pick the tire that fits my budget.

Something to keep in mind, the lower the tread wear rating, the stickier the tire, the shorter the life, the less tolerable to cold weather.

 

This is something on my mind lately because it's close time for me to get some new tires and I was considering 200tw since I live down south,
most my research into the subject came from reviews and various forums,
just type in:

200tw daily forums

and alotta hits will pop up just to give a general idea --- many of the tires in discussion are outdated so then further refine search parameters for postings within the last year for more recent treads.

I've found the Fiesta ST forums to be a wealth of information, as well as the Miata ones.

GRM is also a good fount of info:

200tw site:grassrootsmotorsports.com

They do many up-to-date tests and on the forum there are legit people who have a wide range of experience with all the different options, like if I read multiple posters on GRM say "do not drive these in heavy rain" or "these wear like iron!", it's something I pay attention to in forming my personal opinion for possible new tire candidates that I'm considering.

I've only gone through 2 sets of tires on this car, the previous owner had Conti ExtremeContact DWS which are rated at 560tw,
they were okay with what was left of them but I wasn't highly impressed.

I swapped to BFG Sport Comp 2's which are rated at 340tw and I've enjoyed them very much. My selections are slimmer than yours because I run 16" so it's slim pickins in that size.

But research can only get you so far because we're all different and to each their own ultimately,
it all boils down to particular personal prism of perspective.

Tire choice is always kind of difficult for me, so I can relate how it can be sort of overwhelming.

Add in the budget $$$ aspect and it can become quite nerve wracking.

 

I have a set (Indy Firestone 500) on an F56 running 18's they really are great. For the price and performance, you can't go wrong. Really good in the rain for a performance tire. That being said, you'll start to feel it when they wear out.

I currently have Goodyear eagle sport on my R53. I like them. It's not a purely performance based tire, but gets the job done. They also do great in the rain.

I used to have a set of Toyo Proxes ST on my Ford Lightning. They were one of my favorite tires on that truck. Went through Hankooks, Eagle F1, and Nittos. The tread life, performance, and price were great. Too bad they discontinued them in my size...

As for price, meh. Im used to paying over 1k for performance tires on my truck. This is nothing compared to that

 

I’m agonizing over this at present as well. I’m also using 205/50-15. My car came with falken 615k+, and I haven’t really had any complaints. But I think I should get a more responsible tire for a daily driver. I’m leaning towards the continental extreme contact sport.

 

So I've looked at the toyo R888r's for my next set of track tires, but I don't think I would plan on trying to daily them.
I've run 2 sets of BFG sport comp 2's and loved the grip, but they do get a bit noisy in the second half of their life. I've also never managed to get more than 20k out of a set.
I'm curious about the nittos and the federals, but don't have any experience with them.

 

Same here, around 20k mileage-wise, and I noticed a lack of grip in the second half of their life as my rear end got squirrely and lost traction on snap oversteer --- scared the crap outta me!

Happened twice and was enough to make me readjust rsb (19mm Hotchkis) from full stiff to mid stiff which did the trick.

However, the BFG's are down to the wear bars and replacement is right around the corner which is why I've been scoping out tires. Would really love to experience 200tw but not too excited about 10k-12k mileage if even that, plus might get spoiled by the stickiness and be disappointed when going back to regular street tires, so for now I've pretty much decided just to get another set of the BFG's although I did strongly consider Yoko Fleva V701's due to their lightness but everything I've came across as far as reviews for those didn't inspire confidence (floaty, soft sidewall, etc).

 

As others have said it really depends on your driving habits and what conditions you will be driving in..Some may like a certain tire but you may not like it....Do your research and look at the reviews....I have a set of 205/45 17 Riken Raptor ZR A/S on my R53...I like them and they are super affordable....But my MINI does not see rain/snow(I have a grand Cherokee for that) and it gets put on jack stands in the winter.. I'm lucky if I put 1000 miles per year on it...(I have a Miatia and a motorcycle to drive around also)...For me they work..for some they don't....Just don't be salty if some people recommend a tire and you don't like it... Best of luck in your search...

 

I swapped out my BFGs for some michelin PS AS 3+ and have been underwhelmed by their performance. They are survivable in snow, and I've taken them to 2 track days, so I realize I'm asking alot out of 1 set of tires, but they are no joy to drive on track, and somewhat scary in snow, and mediocre in rain. They still have probably 4-5mm of tread, but like to hydroplane. I'm torn between going back to the BFGs or trying something more agressive, maybe even the toyo R1R that could be my daily driver and track day rain tire...

 

Go with Nitto Neogen.

They have a 200 wear rating but wear much better.
Sticky, with excellent and predictable turn in, and and while listed as an all season tire, and no balancing issues.

IMO they are more like a summer tire.

I ran those on my MINI in sizes of: 205-50/16, 215-40/17, and 215-40/18.

Discount Tire Direct usually has them for around $99 dollars a corner shipped to the door.

 

Just looked up these tires on Discount Tire Direct, and 205/45-17 is $104. They have a wear rating of 280 also. I may consider them for my next set....

 

For me - moderately aggressive, 80% highway driving they would wear more like a 400 tire. Nice and sticky too !

 

I just got a set of Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's in 205/50/16 to replace my BFG Sport Comps and so far I really like them. They are responsive, less noisy that the Comp 2's, and seem to give a bit more comfortable ride. I haven't driven them in the rain on an interstate yet, so I don't know how they will handle standing water. Time will tell.

 

Fortunately my tire purchase is on hold for now ( CANNOT pass up this gen2 sprintex kit) buuuut when time comes again( 2 months or once I sell my extras) I think I'm coin flipping between the federal or firehawks.

 

I personally have gotten 3 sets (2 on mine and 1 on my daughters '09) of Barum Bravuris 5HM from America's Tire (40K mile warranty) $62 /ea. They hold up well and get great reviews in the UK. The company's parent is Continental so definitely a name brand company. I just don't think anyone over here has heard of these. I did check the reviews and were all pretty good, just all from the UK.