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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 12:36 PM
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Ralley Light Bracket Help Needed

I picked up a pair of stainless ralley light brackets for my car. My car does not have the lights, yet.....I need a few good pictures of how the brackets are attached to the underside of the hood. Are they held on with screws or pop rivets? I want to attach these brackets the strongest way possible

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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 01:28 PM
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The OEM instructions call for rivets. I plan to use nuts and bolts when I finally get around to installing mine.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 02:22 PM
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Yup.

Stainless steel button head cap screws with washers and nylock nuts.

Rivets will eventually loosen with vibration, as will the bolts. But bolts can be retightened.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 04:03 PM
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I used nuts and bolts on mine
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 04:16 PM
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Thanks guys, I got some pictures from the Facebook group.... I'm going with bolt's and nuts as well

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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 05:00 PM
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Thanks guys, I got some pictures from the Facebook group.... I'm going with bolt's and nuts as well

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Old Mar 7, 2021 | 12:48 PM
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i was lucky when i picked up Winston he already had the wiring and holes. it was just a question of fitting them
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frustrating is that the switch on my dash is coded to my brites. so for now my yellow rallys are useless
took a bunch of fiddling about to figure out they were linked.
 
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Originally Posted by A383Wing
I picked up a pair of stainless ralley light brackets for my car. My car does not have the lights, yet.....I need a few good pictures of how the brackets are attached to the underside of the hood. Are they held on with screws or pop rivets? I want to attach these brackets the strongest way possible

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Did you have any problems with the fitment of the stainless brackets? I have a pair of these, and while the 2 lower holes line up just fine with factory locations, the end of the bracket with the single hole has a gap 10mm from the metal of the hood. Almost like I would have to fit a spacer to take up the space between the bracket and the hood.
 
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Stainless steel button head cap screws with washers and nylock nuts.

Rivets will eventually loosen with vibration, as will the bolts. But bolts can be retightened.
I plan on using a small amount of blue, removable Loctite on the bolts to stop them from vibrating loose. Don't use red, permanent Loctite. You'll have to apply heat to break that crap loose!
 
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I don't really want to risk distorting the metal by drawing the hood and bracket together with a nut and bolt (or rivet).
 
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Did you have any problems with the fitment of the stainless brackets? I have a pair of these, and while the 2 lower holes line up just fine with factory locations, the end of the bracket with the single hole has a gap 10mm from the metal of the hood. Almost like I would have to fit a spacer to take up the space between the bracket and the hood.
I have not installed the brackets yet, the lights just showed up yesterday. I did a test fit of the brackets to the hood, everything seemed to fit like was shown in the pictures. I have a black honeycomb grille set here that I need to install first, then the brackets will be next

Maybe your bracket is bent? Are both brackets the same way?

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Old Mar 12, 2021 | 02:12 PM
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I have tried 2 different sets of brackets from the same maker, and they both appear to fit in the same way. Might be time for a vice and a BFH!
I have the OEM Aero grille fitted.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 02:41 PM
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OK....one more question....the light brackets are not marked.....which bracket goes on which side?

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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 02:44 PM
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OK....one more question....the light brackets are not marked.....which bracket goes on which side?

Bryan

The unsupported ends point away from center.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FakeName
The unsupported ends point away from center.
there is no unsupported end....do you mean the part that the light sits on?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by A383Wing
there is no unsupported end....do you mean the part that the light sits on?

Yes, the end of the bracket on which the light mounts that cantilevers out away from the car unsupported.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 03:32 PM
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https://www.minimania.com/pdfile/NMA3030_INSTR.zip
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 03:39 PM
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thanks for the PDF instructions.....I don't have the other special bracket they call for if the car has washers and Xenon headlights.....are they really needed?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 06:31 PM
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The Heavy Duty Hood Struts?

Yes, I installed them after I installed my aux lights- made a big difference in open-hood stability. They were not expensive, I believe I googled the part number and bought aftermarket versions. 3 minute installation.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 09:18 PM
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Just for fun, I may switch the stainless brackets around and have the lights a little closer together.

Dare to be different

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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 09:20 PM
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The Heavy Duty Hood Struts?

Yes, I installed them after I installed my aux lights- made a big difference in open-hood stability. They were not expensive, I believe I googled the part number and bought aftermarket versions. 3 minute installation.
Not the hood struts, the PDF install manual said that my car needed a pair of extras mounting brackets... I don't have them
 
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Old Mar 15, 2021 | 12:18 PM
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went to the hardware store today and picked up the button head machine screws and the nylon lock nuts for the bracket mounting....

I have the black honeycomb grille from eBay...I test fit the bracket and I do not have to cut any part of the grille, it fits through the grille without hitting it

Might try and mount the brackets and lights this weekend

Thanks again for everyone's help

Bryan
 
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Old Mar 15, 2021 | 12:22 PM
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I just reinstalled these on my car with fresh brackets and hardware this weekend - I decided to go with rivets again, as the originally installed rivets had held just fine.

Also, the rivets were easy to do. Good luck with the install.

 
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Old Mar 15, 2021 | 12:24 PM
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Any chance you could dig up a part number on those or take pic and post it up... of the printing on the struts themselves ??

they are standardized parts in general ... just need to know extended, compressed lengths and pound/kg rating...

you can get quality pairs for less than $20 if you know what you need



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The Heavy Duty Hood Struts?

Yes, I installed them after I installed my aux lights- made a big difference in open-hood stability. They were not expensive, I believe I googled the part number and bought aftermarket versions. 3 minute installation.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2021 | 01:59 PM
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here's the part number of the hood struts for the rally lights..... 51 23 7 064 485 .....just type it into your browser and a number of selling companies are listed

Bryan
 
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