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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 05:34 PM
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Hotchkis 22810R rear sway bar on daily

Found one local for a good price. I haven't bought it yet. Good or bad idea?

Ive just redone the front suspension shocks and all the bushing including powerflex control arm bushings.

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Old Aug 7, 2019 | 12:33 PM
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Good move, one of the first mods for most people. Come with 3 adjustment holes. And bushings that have grease fittings. "zerk fittings for easy lubrication "

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Old Aug 8, 2019 | 07:35 PM
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I run a 19mm rear sway bar on my daily and have no regrets about it. Stiffening the sway bar has zero effect on the ride quality, but it's very noticeable when you catch an on ramp or a left turn with some space in front of you. The one caution I have, is if you're driving in snow, I like to soften the bar as much as possible to help keep the tail from trying to come around on me, but it's easy to adjust when I put my snow wheels on.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2019 | 07:43 PM
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As stated many times on the forum: "Best bang for the buck." Go for it.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly'n Brick
As stated many times on the forum: "Best bang for the buck." Go for it.
I just put an ALTA bar on my bar of my JCW R53 a few months ago...I think it was the 22mm one, but I don't remember for sure. I have it set to the middle hole....WOW, such a huge difference in cornering. It feels like a completely new car the way it takes a corner. With the stock bar, I could push the car hard enough to easily get under-steer in the corner. Now with the new bar, it takes a lot more....and I mean a LOT more pushing to get the car to slide. And it's almost a perfect balance now........it feels like depending on if you are on the gas or not, you can get it to under steer a little, or over-steer. You can't get as careless with it as you could before, but it handle so good, you don't really have to push it very hard.

I love it...I should have done it a long time ago.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2019 | 06:09 AM
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I think the relevant discussion here is whether a 25.5mm RSB is overkill for a DD car.

It likely is - as without additional supporting mods to the rest of the suspension and chassis components, it's going to deaden the rear a bit too much. If paired with stiffer suspension, matched damping, and sticky tires, an aggressive rear bar will be useful. For 300TW tires and higher (mileage-oriented), I wouldn't go so heavy in the rear, especially with a softer or stock-sprung car. It can cause a bit more oversteer than bargained for - unless you want a twitchy car (like a motorcycle with too little front tree rake).
 
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Old Aug 14, 2019 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Racingguy04
I run a 19mm rear sway bar on my daily and have no regrets about it. Stiffening the sway bar has zero effect on the ride quality, but it's very noticeable when you catch an on ramp or a left turn with some space in front of you. The one caution I have, is if you're driving in snow, I like to soften the bar as much as possible to help keep the tail from trying to come around on me, but it's easy to adjust when I put my snow wheels on.
Which hole are you on? I have the same one, but put mine on the middle hole. I'm considering moving to the stiffest setting. I have no other suspension mods.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2019 | 09:49 AM
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I'm on the middle hole at the moment, I was at full stiff, but the rear was getting a little squirelly on me on some on ramps, so I backed it off a bit. I've got a track day coming up and I'll probably start it at full stiff, but will definitely take tools to adjust it if it's too much rotation. I'm on stock springs, but have koni FSD's and a front strut brace, but nothing really aggressive. I want to put some IE fixed camber plates on, but other than that, I don't think I'd change a thing for how I'm using the car.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2019 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by veedubpat
I think the relevant discussion here is whether a 25.5mm RSB is overkill for a DD car.

It likely is - as without additional supporting mods to the rest of the suspension and chassis components, it's going to deaden the rear a bit too much. If paired with stiffer suspension, matched damping, and sticky tires, an aggressive rear bar will be useful. For 300TW tires and higher (mileage-oriented), I wouldn't go so heavy in the rear, especially with a softer or stock-sprung car. It can cause a bit more oversteer than bargained for - unless you want a twitchy car (like a motorcycle with too little front tree rake).

I'm running Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 tires TW 340 Traction A , all new front suspension with PowerFlex CA bushings.
I will work on the rear once time and cash allows.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2019 | 10:50 AM
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Car in its present state. Getting ready for safety inspection . The background car is my DD at the moment (on its last legs will become a parts car)
 
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