R50/53 Ticking noise on cold start ups
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Ticking noise on cold start ups
I took my engine apart about three to four hundred miles ago. now the last few times I've started it up I've gotten a ticking noise from the engine bay.
Any ideas?
It's plenty loud enough but light and sound so valve train? Oil not getting where it needs to be quick enough? One of the plastic caps on the end of The rocker tip missing? Timing chain tensioner/rails?
It only lasts for a minute.
I'm running 5w40 should I go back to 5w30?
Any ideas?
It's plenty loud enough but light and sound so valve train? Oil not getting where it needs to be quick enough? One of the plastic caps on the end of The rocker tip missing? Timing chain tensioner/rails?
It only lasts for a minute.
I'm running 5w40 should I go back to 5w30?
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Yeah oil level was good. I serviced the supercharger at the same time I removed the engine.
The car has around 180k. I didn't change out the idler pulley when I went through the engine. It seemed good, but that could of changed.
I took a quick video, but couldn't put it up since it wasn't formatted correctly.
I didn't really get into listening were it was coming from exactly, since I only had a couple minutes. I just shut it off and took the other car.
The car has around 180k. I didn't change out the idler pulley when I went through the engine. It seemed good, but that could of changed.
I took a quick video, but couldn't put it up since it wasn't formatted correctly.
I didn't really get into listening were it was coming from exactly, since I only had a couple minutes. I just shut it off and took the other car.
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Keep in mind, those superchargers really aren't designed to be "serviced".....the bearings only last so long before they crap out. Just because you recently put fresh oil in it doesn't really mean much....it could still be a bad SC.
I'd say that you should have a better idea what it is once you spend a little more time finding out where the noise is coming from.
I'd say that you should have a better idea what it is once you spend a little more time finding out where the noise is coming from.
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So I took another listen to try to determine where. It's very hard to tell it sounds almost equally loud on both sides of the engine.
I was listening to some videos of bad superchargers. Didn't really sound like that. They were more of a whirling grinding noise.
It only lasted about 20-30 seconds this time before abruptly stopping. So I didn't have to much time to listen.
It's a tick like the direct injection, just louder.
So it can clearly be heard, to no noise at all in a blink.
I was listening to some videos of bad superchargers. Didn't really sound like that. They were more of a whirling grinding noise.
It only lasted about 20-30 seconds this time before abruptly stopping. So I didn't have to much time to listen.
It's a tick like the direct injection, just louder.
So it can clearly be heard, to no noise at all in a blink.
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I'm gonna do new timing chain guides and tensioner. Found a video where it sounded similar to mine.
Since its cheap I'll start there.
Plus gives me the opportunity to look around under the valve cover.
Also does the shafts the rockets ride on have oiling holes? I don't remember putting it in a certain position. So if that is the case, maybe I have the rocker shaft positioned wrong.
Since its cheap I'll start there.
Plus gives me the opportunity to look around under the valve cover.
Also does the shafts the rockets ride on have oiling holes? I don't remember putting it in a certain position. So if that is the case, maybe I have the rocker shaft positioned wrong.
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If it has over 100K miles, using 10-30 would be a better oil for cold starts. Ticking can be due to the cam chain tensioner, not getting enough pressure to tighten the chain, or the tensioner is wearing out. If you buy a new one, make sure it is a tested one, as many out there are no good, from new!
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Yeah definitely over 100k. I'm using 5w40. But can give 10w30 a try after I toss the new parts in.
Not sure if it was just in my head but felt like it had a little less power when romping on it. The last time I drove it. Just gonna keep it parked till I can swap the parts.
Hoping if there happens to be some less tension on the chain that it didn't jump time or something.
Not sure if it was just in my head but felt like it had a little less power when romping on it. The last time I drove it. Just gonna keep it parked till I can swap the parts.
Hoping if there happens to be some less tension on the chain that it didn't jump time or something.
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So I started it last night, since I haven't started it since the weekend.
No noise. Which makes it probably more the case that it was maybe the tensioner, not working correctly or partly stuck ect..
Now my question is should I just try replacing the tensioner for now see what happens.
Or replace the guide rails and tensioner?
Obviously the tensioner takes like 20 minutes so pretty quick.
No noise. Which makes it probably more the case that it was maybe the tensioner, not working correctly or partly stuck ect..
Now my question is should I just try replacing the tensioner for now see what happens.
Or replace the guide rails and tensioner?
Obviously the tensioner takes like 20 minutes so pretty quick.
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I was just spitting out ideas when I mentioned it. There pretty much the same, with the 5w40 probably a little better for summer.
But I run it in my bmw, so I usually have some extra quarts. It's the main reason I use it.
Not trying to be a test pilot .
But I run it in my bmw, so I usually have some extra quarts. It's the main reason I use it.
Not trying to be a test pilot .
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Why are you being a "test pilot" with respect to oil viscosity set by the MINI engineers ?
Manufacturer recommended is 5w/30.
90% of all engine wear occurs during cold start ups....that said, going thicker is a disadvantage to your engine while providing less performance.
Manufacturer recommended is 5w/30.
90% of all engine wear occurs during cold start ups....that said, going thicker is a disadvantage to your engine while providing less performance.
the oil you are using is fine for a high mileage car.
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When I say looser, I mean bearings at .005+ not the original .0025 as new. Also the lifter wear and oil pump wear also come in to play!
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