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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 07:11 PM
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Noise from Coilover? Help

2006 Mini Cooper S with 60,000 miles

I installed KW coilovers along with upper and lower control arms recently and now I'm hearing a mix of clinking and thudding noise coming from the rear left wheel well. I hear it every time I drive over small dips in the roads. I looked up some solutions but none of them have worked. I have changed the end links, checked the sway bar and bushings, checked if the shock was blown, checked if the spring was maxing out, checked the wheel, checked that all bolts in the area where torqued down properly. So far none of these have done anything to do with the noise. I have no idea what the noise is. Also, the car has been lowered about 3/4 of an inch. Can someone please help? Thankyou
 
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 02:12 AM
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is the top mount tight enough?

is the spring pre loaded?

is the spring collar secure?

to rule out the sway bar 100% disconnect it and tie it up

control arms tight?

dampers not fouling trailing arm?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 03:24 AM
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Which control arms did you install?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 05:37 AM
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Check those rear end links really close for play (just a little amount makes a clunk noise), they like to wear out and clunk, mine need to be replaced after we did the Ohlins coilovers, strut mounts, rear mounts.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 02:00 PM
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I tightened the top mount and that did not do anything.
The spring is not preloaded
I also tied up the sway bar up and it wasn't it
I tightened the control arms
And the dampers don't hit the trailing arm

I'm not sure about the spring collar though. How would that make the noise?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 02:01 PM
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Which control arms did you install?
Alta control arms top and bottom
 
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 02:03 PM
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Check those rear end links really close for play (just a little amount makes a clunk noise), they like to wear out and clunk, mine need to be replaced after we did the Ohlins coilovers, strut mounts, rear mounts.
I replaced the end links and they still did nothing
 
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 02:45 PM
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Make sure the nuts are not loose also.
 
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the spring should have some preload
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyeler
Alta control arms top and bottom
These?
https://altaperformance.com/i-160096...all-minis.html

In my experience, this style of jointed control arm is noisy, just a nature of the design. While they will give excellent feel and control of the wheels, they will make noises that will increase as they wear in.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 09:42 AM
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^this too
 
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 10:44 AM
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mine did the same its the heim end jam nut, grease it up and give it a good tighten
 
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Old Sep 22, 2018 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ExclusiveWorkshops
the spring should have some preload
The spring has a lot of preload
 
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Old Sep 22, 2018 | 01:43 PM
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above in post 5 you said it wasn't preloaded?

if the spring has no pre-load, as in wheel hanging and able to easily wobble/turn the spring, the spring in some conditions can shift causing noise, clunk especially.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2018 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ExclusiveWorkshops
above in post 5 you said it wasn't preloaded?

if the spring has no pre-load, as in wheel hanging and able to easily wobble/turn the spring, the spring in some conditions can shift causing noise, clunk especially.
Yes sorry I realize that I said that. I meant to say it wasn't preload that was causing the noise. The car is lowered and has a good amount of preload on the coilover.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2018 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by njaremka


These?
https://altaperformance.com/i-160096...all-minis.html

In my experience, this style of jointed control arm is noisy, just a nature of the design. While they will give excellent feel and control of the wheels, they will make noises that will increase as they wear in.
So it is normal for them to make noise? My worry is I hear it from only one side an not the other. Also, they were taken off another car that didn't make the noise and I only started to hear it once I it on my car
 
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