R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006) Cooper (R50) and Cooper S (R53) hatchback discussion.

R50/53 Heat Shield Removal

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 13, 2018 | 11:49 AM
  #1  
MCSmoonshine's Avatar
MCSmoonshine
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 161
Likes: 12
From: Roseville CA
Heat Shield Removal

Anyone have any insight into getting the exhaust manifold heat shield that bolts into the motor to come off? I know its the two 13mm bolts up top but the heads of them are so unbelievably shallow and the shield so close to the bolts that I cant find a tool that will come close to working.
 
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2018 | 11:52 AM
  #2  
pnwR53S's Avatar
pnwR53S
6th Gear - NAM Hall of Fame
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,967
Likes: 393
From: soggy pnw
Originally Posted by MCSmoonshine
Anyone have any insight into getting the exhaust manifold heat shield that bolts into the motor to come off? I know its the two 13mm bolts up top but the heads of them are so unbelievably shallow and the shield so close to the bolts that I cant find a tool that will come close to working.
You obvious do not have the right tool. Try 6 point socket instead of 12. Also fineness matters if it is not all too late beyond the point of no return.
 
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2018 | 12:14 PM
  #3  
MCSmoonshine's Avatar
MCSmoonshine
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 161
Likes: 12
From: Roseville CA
Originally Posted by pnwR53S
You obvious do not have the right tool. Try 6 point socket instead of 12. Also fineness matters if it is not all too late beyond the point of no return.
So the bigger issue I'm running into is being able to get the socket all the way onto the head of the bolt. The distance from the head of the bolt to the side of the shield is crazy tight. Which, of course, means go get a thin walled socket
 
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2018 | 12:18 PM
  #4  
pnwR53S's Avatar
pnwR53S
6th Gear - NAM Hall of Fame
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,967
Likes: 393
From: soggy pnw
Get a hammer and tap on the socket might give you more bite which is what I did. You should not complain being in CA as opposed in TO, Detroit, or Jersey.
 
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2018 | 12:28 PM
  #5  
nkfry's Avatar
nkfry
Vendor - Detroit Tuned 15 Years
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,859
Likes: 34
From: Clawson, MI
You shouldn't have any issue getting a socket on them, the only cars I've had to at times jump over to a 13mm open end are those that have RMW headers on them because the heat shield had to be bent up a bit to clear the runners.

I use a 3/8" ratchet that has a pivot head and a deep 13mm, no issues.
 
__________________
https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic151635_2.gif
MINI Specialists * Parts * Performance * Service
Phone:586-792-6464
Info@DetroitTuned.com
Nick@DetroitTuned.com
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2018 | 12:55 PM
  #6  
gumbedamit's Avatar
gumbedamit
5th Gear
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 985
Likes: 97
From: Atlanta Georgia
Is the heat shield crinkled to a point where the are pushing up around the bolt. I'm trying to understand your point of using a thin walled socket? I am able to use a 6-point socket or ratchet wrench with no problem.
 
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2018 | 01:23 PM
  #7  
pnwR53S's Avatar
pnwR53S
6th Gear - NAM Hall of Fame
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,967
Likes: 393
From: soggy pnw
Originally Posted by gumbedamit
Is the heat shield crinkled to a point where the are pushing up around the bolt. I'm trying to understand your point of using a thin walled socket? I am able to use a 6-point socket or ratchet wrench with no problem.
That is my exact point of using a hammer to drive home.

With anything exhaust you typically only get one chance and you never want to squander it.
 
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2018 | 04:29 AM
  #8  
Whine not Walnuts's Avatar
Whine not Walnuts
OVERDRIVE
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,489
Likes: 629
From: Fuquay Varina, NC
The heat shield stuff is pretty soft and malleable so compressing it to get better access for the socket would be logical to me. Would think a little larger socket would be step one and then go with the correct size.
 
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2018 | 05:07 AM
  #9  
ST3ALTHPSYCH0's Avatar
ST3ALTHPSYCH0
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 193
Likes: 6
From: N. Central Indiana, USA
Originally Posted by Whine not Walnuts
The heat shield stuff is pretty soft and malleable so compressing it to get better access for the socket would be logical to me. Would think a little larger socket would be step one and then go with the correct size.
Soft is an understatement. When I added my lower shifter extension to further shorten my shift throw, I used the ball end of a ball peen hammer like an english wheel to allow space for the shifter tail to move around.

I seriously think I've bitten into an Airhead taffy that was stouter stuff!
 
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2018 | 11:17 AM
  #10  
MCSmoonshine's Avatar
MCSmoonshine
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 161
Likes: 12
From: Roseville CA
I ran down and grabbed a 6pt from my neighbor. Whoever put it on last time had it on crazy tight. But all is well now and its off. Now to get it all out of the bay. Thanks guys
 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 06:07 AM
  #11  
NC TRACKRAT's Avatar
NC TRACKRAT
6th Gear
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,671
Likes: 300
From: NC
Put a little anti-seize on the threads so you won't incur the problem next time.
 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 12:30 PM
  #12  
MCSmoonshine's Avatar
MCSmoonshine
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 161
Likes: 12
From: Roseville CA
Originally Posted by NC TRACKRAT
Put a little anti-seize on the threads so you won't incur the problem next time.
Haha gotta get to that point first. Replacing the lower heat shield is turning into the biggest nightmare known to man
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 02:00 PM
  #13  
gumbedamit's Avatar
gumbedamit
5th Gear
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 985
Likes: 97
From: Atlanta Georgia
Are you having problems with the one bolt, or the rubber feet the heat shield slides into?

Question: Why are you removing the heat shields: Oil Filter Housing gasket, or the manifold?
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2018 | 02:04 PM
  #14  
gumbedamit's Avatar
gumbedamit
5th Gear
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 985
Likes: 97
From: Atlanta Georgia
Originally Posted by MCSmoonshine
I ran down and grabbed a 6pt from my neighbor. Whoever put it on last time had it on crazy tight. But all is well now and its off. Now to get it all out of the bay. Thanks guys
You are not going to be able to remove it from the bay unless you're taking off the exhaust manifold, the best you can do is to move them both out of the way. Are you replacing the oil filter housing gasket?
 
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2023 | 03:12 PM
  #15  
AFTrav's Avatar
AFTrav
Neutral
Joined: Dec 2022
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by gumbedamit
Are you having problems with the one bolt, or the rubber feet the heat shield slides into?

Question: Why are you removing the heat shields: Oil Filter Housing gasket, or the manifold?
the rubber feet are giving me hell and I can’t seem to get them on. :(
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mini Mania
Drivetrain Products
0
Mar 1, 2016 11:55 AM
kevjandon
MINI Parts for Sale
3
Aug 29, 2013 06:29 AM
kevjandon
Sin City MINI Club (SCMC)
1
Aug 29, 2013 06:27 AM
rwkeating
Drivetrain (Cooper S)
2
Oct 30, 2007 09:59 PM
jennscooper
Detailing 101
15
Jul 20, 2004 04:59 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:37 PM.