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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 12:51 PM
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Can I replace claster with lcd navigation ?

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i mi want ask if can replace the claster for my r53 with original navigator from r52 or r53 ?

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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 05:10 AM
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if you get the whole navigation system, you might be able to. theres also a piece under the passenger seat that's preety much the whole computer. the maps are loaded onto a DVD and then broadcast from there to the LCD screen. and then you would need the antenna fixturing to get the GPS signal. if your just looking for a screen, ive seen some people put in a nexus 7 and have it looking decent
 
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltysalt
if you get the whole navigation system, you might be able to. theres also a piece under the passenger seat that's preety much the whole computer. the maps are loaded onto a DVD and then broadcast from there to the LCD screen. and then you would need the antenna fixturing to get the GPS signal. if your just looking for a screen, ive seen some people put in a nexus 7 and have it looking decent
thanx dear

no need navigation
I need only main functions as
fuel level, temp etc

if replace it can work ?
the conction same or not ?

​​​​​​​thanx
 

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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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I'm gonna play devil's advocate here, bear with me. I've recently driven a handful of R53's pretty recently...standard features, navi, chrono, you name it.

Here's my honest opinion on the navigation-equipped R53's after my recent MINI buying stint:

You gain a little resolution on the fuel gauge, especially around empty, this is true. But there really isn't much benefit, unless you spend a lot of time near empty. Instead of having 4 vertical sections, with the bottom 1/8th being a "almost empty" section, you get 10 horizontally-arranged LED dots.

Every other signal that is read by the navigation screen is already there in every MINI, hidden inside the onboard computer.

To access those settings, it takes a little practice, but it's not hard. I do it every time I start my MINI (Setting #7), because I haven't hard-wired a proper temperature gauge in yet. Here's a list of all the things you can set the speedo to display.

If you haven't ever reset your ECU, Setting #21 is how you would go about doing that.
  1. Press and hold the trip reset button (only button on the speedo). While holding, turn the key to the "ON" position (don't start the engine yet!)
  2. Let go of the trip reset button.
  3. Repeatedly tap the button until the speedo window scrolls to option 19.
  4. Wait a second, until "LI-OFF" appears on the screen, then press the reset button again.
  5. Press the button to scroll to the menu option you want, then wait a second and it should display the value you want. Bear in mind, it's in metric units (as it should be )

As far as outside air temp, your default tachometer should show that in its little window.

Unless you have that little toggle button on your left turn indicator stalk, then you should just be able to cycle through a few details (i.e. distance to empty, outside air temp, fuel economy).

Hope this helps! A tablet in your dash is a lot better (and probably cheaper) than the mediocre "so-early-2000's" navigation screen.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sarom058
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here, bear with me. I've recently driven a handful of R53's pretty recently...standard features, navi, chrono, you name it.

Here's my honest opinion on the navigation-equipped R53's after my recent MINI buying stint:

You gain a little resolution on the fuel gauge, especially around empty, this is true. But there really isn't much benefit, unless you spend a lot of time near empty. Instead of having 4 vertical sections, with the bottom 1/8th being a "almost empty" section, you get 10 horizontally-arranged LED dots.

Every other signal that is read by the navigation screen is already there in every MINI, hidden inside the onboard computer.

To access those settings, it takes a little practice, but it's not hard. I do it every time I start my MINI (Setting #7), because I haven't hard-wired a proper temperature gauge in yet. Here's a list of all the things you can set the speedo to display.

If you haven't ever reset your ECU, Setting #21 is how you would go about doing that.
  1. Press and hold the trip reset button (only button on the speedo). While holding, turn the key to the "ON" position (don't start the engine yet!)
  2. Let go of the trip reset button.
  3. Repeatedly tap the button until the speedo window scrolls to option 19.
  4. Wait a second, until "LI-OFF" appears on the screen, then press the reset button again.
  5. Press the button to scroll to the menu option you want, then wait a second and it should display the value you want. Bear in mind, it's in metric units (as it should be )

As far as outside air temp, your default tachometer should show that in its little window.

Unless you have that little toggle button on your left turn indicator stalk, then you should just be able to cycle through a few details (i.e. distance to empty, outside air temp, fuel economy).

Hope this helps! A tablet in your dash is a lot better (and probably cheaper) than the mediocre "so-early-2000's" navigation screen.
​​​​​​​ thanx a lot dear for valued info 🌹
 
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 12:17 PM
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What is your goal? You say you want to replace the speedometer with original navigation, then you say "no navigation". Do you just want to use that space for a carputer?

Retrofitting the factory nav system is complicated because of the interactions between different electronics modules.
http://www.mini2.com/forum/first-gen...ml#post3255721
 
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rkw
What is your goal? You say you want to replace the speedometer with original navigation, then you say "no navigation". Do you just want to use that space for a carputer?

Retrofitting the factory nav system is complicated because of the interactions between different electronics modules.
http://www.mini2.com/forum/first-gen...ml#post3255721
I prepar my mini to race challenge
and I'm thinking to use that nav lcd to red engine info
by obd2 Bluetooth
I was see something like thes Youtube

and I'm search if can be
 
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 10:30 PM
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Is this what you want to do?

 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RB-MINI
Is this what you want to do?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DXHrZfvnc
​​​​​​​Exactly 😍

but don't know how to connect the av conction
because I thing need something under passenger seat

can be without it ?

​​​​​​​Thanx
 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 01:42 AM
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It's not easy or cheap to retrofit the factory NAV, mainly because the screen/main cluster is tied to the car by the VIN number and it also stores other info in it that can't be changed so you might have to use a new/unused cluster. Also, not sure if you can display video on the factory screen without having the NAV computer under the seat.

Something like this would probably be way easier, more readable, and cheaper than trying to retrofit a factory NAV unit and then integrate an android stick with an audio/video interface to display the gauges on the NAV screen.



If you want more info on the NAV screen gauges, check out the description section of this video on the actual YouTube site.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RB-MINI
It's not easy or cheap to retrofit the factory NAV, mainly because the screen/main cluster is tied to the car by the VIN number and it also stores other info in it that can't be changed so you might have to use a new/unused cluster. Also, not sure if you can display video on the factory screen without having the NAV computer under the seat.

Something like this would probably be way easier, more readable, and cheaper than trying to retrofit a factory NAV unit and then integrate an android stick with an audio/video interface to display the gauges on the NAV screen.



If you want more info on the NAV screen gauges, check out the description section of this video on the actual YouTube site.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy6XopVvg0s
so I used the multi gauges better

thank you dear
 
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