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Old May 27, 2018 | 04:40 PM
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They were cheap and easy to install. Weather they do anything...idk. I bought them for the rear also when I install the new bar.
 
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Old May 27, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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Alta RSB also has built in lateral stops, which was one of the reasons I chose it over others.
 
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Old May 27, 2018 | 05:36 PM
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I got hotchkis due to the greesable bushings
 
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Old May 27, 2018 | 07:24 PM
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Good that you installed the stops for the rear. I am just browsing suspension section over at Minitorque and came across this thread, where OP's rear sway bar shifted and cause the drop link to hit the coil spring. Horror.


 
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Old May 27, 2018 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pnwR53S
Good that you installed the stops for the rear. I am just browsing suspension section over at Minitorque and came across this thread, where OP's rear sway bar shifted and cause the drop link to hit the coil spring. Horror.


I only had installed the braces. Everything else will
go on once I have the coilovers.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 07:54 AM
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Final Cusco braces installed. With all these braces installed the car feels weird in a good way. It feels much more confident through the corners. Before my torso would move side to side when cornering due to the crap seats and taking an on ramp aggressively would have me leaning over to brace myself. With these braces installed there is much less lean and it's much less stressful through corners.








 

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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 08:05 AM
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You sure spare no expense with this Mini. Good for you.

Those looks like decent braces. Images kaputt though, so I have to google.

How much does it lower the exhaust pipe support, and does it come with spacers to maintain the pipe at original elevation?



 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pnwR53S
You sure spare no expense with this Mini. Good for you.

Those looks like decent braces. Images kaputt though, so I have to google.

How much does it lower the exhaust pipe support, and does it come with spacers to maintain the pipe at original elevation?



If you buy one brace it comes with spacers to make sure the center bracket is level. These braces go under the bracket and lower it a couple of mm. Hardy concerning. I have no issues with it. I chose to brace up the car because I'm not interested in installing a cage.

I'll fix the pics when I get to a computer.

In short. These braces kick ***.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 09:18 AM
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OMP Upper brace on backorder until next month.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pnwR53S
Good that you installed the stops for the rear. I am just browsing suspension section over at Minitorque and came across this thread, where OP's rear sway bar shifted and cause the drop link to hit the coil spring. Horror.



I think that is your lower control arm in silver / red .. how do you like them?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 11:25 AM
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I think that is your lower control arm in silver / red .. how do you like them?
Not my car. I purchased hochkis arms.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 07:29 PM
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That's pnw's car.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 07:31 PM
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That's pnw's car.
That's a car from an OP on Minitorque. Not Pnw.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 07:48 PM
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Got it. Do you know anything about those silver / red control arms?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 07:50 PM
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Got it. Do you know anything about those silver / red control arms?
They look like eibach arms.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 08:18 PM
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My new OEM Leather hand brake boot and handle came in. MUCH better than the cheap feeling torn plastic crap.

 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 08:31 PM
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Got it. Do you know anything about those silver / red control arms?
We put those silver aluminum rear control arms on my kid’s R53. Got them from Amazon, $33 for the pair.

So far so good after 7K. It is Dorman 522-058. Sure looks like the same as the Eibach and SPC.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 08:42 PM
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Any difference between them and the hotchkis?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 09:04 PM
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Any difference between them and the hotchkis?
As ONEBUNCHMINI said, the Hotchkis bushings have the ability to add grease. The bushings are also poly versus the rubber bushings on the Eibach/SPC/Dorman arms.

It really depends on if you will be tracking or autox or just daily driving with the ability to dial in camber. For my kid’s use it’s was mostly for minimizing the negative camber so the Dorman arms are just fine. Hotchkis is a better option for everything else.
 

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Old Jun 9, 2018 | 10:01 PM
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strut tower brace?

Did I missed something. You Mini has more chassis braces than most. I don't recall seeing a strut tower brace on your Mini. The closest thing you installed is the Ultra Racing lower front brace between the lower control arm bushing knuckles.




Did you experience any clear chassis/ride/handling improvements, and if so can you please describe them?
 
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Old Jun 10, 2018 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pnwR53S
Did I missed something. You Mini has more chassis braces than most. I don't recall seeing a strut tower brace on your Mini. The closest thing you installed is the Ultra Racing lower front brace between the lower control arm bushing knuckles.




Did you experience any clear chassis/ride/handling improvements, and if so can you please describe them?
The Ultra racing bar pictured is connected to the outer two of the four bolts of the subframe where the crash bar supports slide into. It's directly below the oil pan. The WMW X Brace connects the two control arm bushings and the rear of the subframe together. The WMW brace alone makes the biggest difference. Less understeer, more solid ride over bumps, better controlability mid turn, more confidence inspiring chassis. If you were to buy only ONE brace than the WMW would be my choice. But all of these braces together really refine the ride and make it seem like you're driving a larger car until you hit that first corner. I have an autox at 9am today. I'll post my feelings with hard driving on these bars then. I'm waiting for my OMP upper brace to arrive since it's on back order. I also have the convertible braces installed.[/QUOTE]
 
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Old Jun 10, 2018 | 07:38 PM
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After today I can say that the braces are 1000% worth it. I felt fully confident with where the car was going and felt exactly what my crap stock suspension was doing. Had to do a lot of trail braking to compensate for the stock RSB. In short, these braces make the body communicative enough for you to feel confident in going flat out but is also makes you notice how crappy or great your current suspension is.

It's really good.

The results are below. I'm in class DSP.

https://www.erscc.com/livetiming/
 
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Old Jun 5, 2020 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ONEBUNCHMIN
Also My CSF Radiator developed a leak. So CSF sent me another one without asking for the old one back. Good service.


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I don't think CSF is a crap and cheap company. Leaks in aftermarket aluminum radiators happen all the time, no matter what brand.

The replacement one is holding up well so far.

Now that a couple of years have gone by, how's the CSF radiator holding up? I'm looking at upgrading mine, but I don't want to get really good at swapping out radiators because I get a lot of practice.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2020 | 03:38 AM
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Now that a couple of years have gone by, how's the CSF radiator holding up? I'm looking at upgrading mine, but I don't want to get really good at swapping out radiators because I get a lot of practice.
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I sold the car a long time ago so I don't know.
 
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