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Old Oct 2, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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R53 Nav question

Can I install an OEM nav system in my MCS myself and I need to have the dealer do any programming on it after it is installed
 
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Old Oct 2, 2016 | 06:47 PM
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Yes it's possible but a very big task.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/first-gen...m-sat-nav.html

It is difficult enough that you'd probably want to sell your car and get another with Nav already installed.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 05:28 AM
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not sure you can get new kombi units, they get vin/mile locked once coded, I have not found a way to zero/reset them
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Its a big project, some people that have the chronopack have a little less thing and items to buy.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 01:09 PM
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And it begs the question whether it makes any sense to install it at all. It is a 15 year old Nav system (received very minor changes during its lifetime). They have even stopped publishing new maps for it.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 01:17 PM
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Only reason I would install is so I could run Android in the display and still have a fuel gauge and warning lights
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 04:36 AM
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I am in the opposite situation. I have ZERO use for the nav and would love to have the original SpeedO instead. But after lots of research I found it to be WAY to much money to justify and WAY WAY to much trouble with the install.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 05:16 AM
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I just want it so I can gut it out and put a nexus 7 there instead, running harries laptimer/torque pro/solostorm/etc etc.

The only nice thing about factory nav is it moves warning lights to the speedo/tach and it has a nifty fuel gauge

One of my cars has chrono, the ohter does not, I find the center cluster equally useless and the chrono stuff is all fake anyway
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 06:40 AM
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id like to replace mine with a nexus 7, but I also don't want to purchase a plan for wireless for it either haha
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 08:05 AM
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I just want it so I can gut it out and put a nexus 7 there instead
You can delete just the Nav screen. A Nexus 7 is too large to fit but you can use a phablet (Galaxy Note, Nexus 6P, etc).
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-sort-of.html

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id like to replace mine with a nexus 7, but I also don't want to purchase a plan for wireless for it either haha
Tether to a hotspot on your phone.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 08:12 AM
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The nav unit is do dated, it used CD'S IN THE EARLY units, and DVD'S in the later units....the drive was under the passangerside seat if I recall....
It's a 16-20 year old GPS at best....imo get a mount, Cravenspeed makes some beautiful ones, and use a phone, or even a separate unit...some units, usually labeled LMT (LIFETIME MAPS +TRAFFIC) have some features that are beyong what the car ever had, but are still years behind Google maps....
If you are worried about data on a phone, or lack of connectivity, you can download maps for a HUGE area, and ise....almost ZERO data will be used, and they will still work (no traffic) in areas without cell coverage.
The traffic feature on the old standalone units is data that piggybacks on HD RADIO....so if you are outside an urban area, you won't get that either....and the maps on a portable unit will require updating by connecting to a computer on occasion.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltysalt
id like to replace mine with a nexus 7, but I also don't want to purchase a plan for wireless for it either haha
Ever try google-fi?
If you use them for your phone, data only sim chips are FREE, just pay the $20 a GB (same as your phone) for the data....phone is $20, unlimited talk and text, plus data...no plans, no lost $$ for unused data, international roaming for data is the same price.
Great service....I once paid Verizon about $100 a month (international data was crazy, so just shut off data roaming most times)....now I pay $40-45 most months, even if I go international!!
Networks are T-Mobile, Sprint, and US-CELLULAR....the phone jumps between them...so Google-fi makes 3 weaker providers into a GOOD network at about 50% the cost
If you use more than 5gb a month, it might not make $ sense, but you could have 50 data Sims...lol...no fee, heck Google even page the SHIPPING!!
GUESS you could set you phone up as a hotspot (also free on Fi)do that with your current carrier, and use an old phone for a semi permanent mounted gps in the car, with downloaded maps....heck...it could download updates on your home WiFi when you are home....
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 09:53 AM
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I have the activation for google FI, and I almost switched to it, next go around with my current plan, ill prolly move over, but that isn't a bad idea
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 02:01 PM
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Googles service is really expensive
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 02:35 PM
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Googles service is really expensive


Lol....I really hope you are trying to be funny!! Best priced cell phone service I have ever used.....and the Nexus 6p was priced very good too....
Most Google services are Free $$ wise....and if you are worried about "data" or privacy, just use a fake name....lol
I get tons of free stuff from Google....
I pay for nothing (except cell phone service) in cash....they flash a few advertisements ....but I trust them more than yahoo or NAM....heck...their customers service is GREAT to deal with...if I could switch to them as an Internet provider from Comcast, I would pay EXTRA just to avoid the jerks...
Google maps is great....you give up (if you do it live) a tiny bit of data about traffic conditions to help other users....do it offline...then nothing.
With privacy, you are either in or out...
WITH GOOGLE, I am comfortable cause they give me (imo) value ....others are sleezy, but Google has always been open and honest....they simply have more to lose if they mess it up..
Oh yeah....free photo backup, unlimited amount, free E-mail (sure a robot scans it for adds, but the spam filtering is FANTASTIC), FREE Google docs, free storage (much more than apple), and you get more if you become a "guide" and do reviews.
 

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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mega72
Googles service is really expensive
Compared to what? Lower than any of the major carriers.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 05:37 PM
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I have 3 lines and we use 10gb a month, google is a lot more than our verizon family plan

It says I'll get 3g here, who do they use?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mega72
I have 3 lines and we use 10gb a month, google is a lot more than our verizon family plan

It says I'll get 3g here, who do they use?
You should be able to add a tablet to your Verizon plan at a low price. However, I don't know if the tablet plan would work with a phablet (which is technically a phone).

Google Project Fi uses Sprint, T-Mobile, and US Cellular: https://fi.google.com/about/faq/#network-and-coverage
 
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 04:38 AM
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ouch zero coverage here then, I tried t-mobile never could get it to activate at the house had to return it
 
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 05:35 AM
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ouch zero coverage here then, I tried t-mobile never could get it to activate at the house had to return it
It uses the best of the three. ..and switches......and us-cellular roams on Verizon....so life is good...
You don't need all 3, just be in a T-Mobile covered location to activate....easy to do at work, etc.
It doesn't fit all use cases...larger data users (more than 3gb a line, maybe 5) or family plan users can do about the same elsewhere....just as some rural users....but customer service and great international coverage.....
Honestly, was a Verizon customer for 15+ years....my bill is now half...never looked back.
Zero extra costs (for data) for vacations with my phone....no worries, life is good.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 05:45 AM
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none of those 3 networks have coverage at my house, rural life is worth only having verizon as an option and 5mb dsl
 
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