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Old Feb 13, 2016 | 12:21 PM
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I've converted Transmission from cvt to manual gearbox 6 speed .. But

Hello every body
Good evening

Just now I finished convert my 2002 mini r50 none-s from Automatic cvt to 6 speeds manual gear box

I replaced
1- both shafts
2- lever with cables
3- starter motor
4- brake pedal with clutch pedal
* new clutch set
* used 6 speed manual gear box
* master cylinder
* sleeve cylinder
* clutch fluid pressure lines

The mini now not start and there's faults about cvt

I have some questions if there's somebody was do it before
What I should do now ?

1- How can I change programs or coding ?
2- is there a relay need to change ?
3- what about wiring, is need to replace ?

I have Autel maxsys pro scanner with programmer

Tnx for all

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Ali from BAHRAIN
 
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Old Feb 13, 2016 | 12:26 PM
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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 09:07 PM
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Your ecu is designed and coded for an automatic car. It's not reading the 6mt and is telling the car something is wrong.

For example in an auto you put it in park to start it and the comp reads that but a manual you compress the clutch and the comp reads that
 
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 03:22 AM
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It has been done, but I don't have the details.
Way Motor Works has done a bunch.
You'll need someone to reprogram the ECU,
and I think there is at least one wiring harness to replace.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 06:59 PM
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Yes need to send us the computers and we can fix it. The car still thinks it's a CVT so it won't work
http://www.waymotorworks.com/cvt-to-...ogramming.html
 
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 07:11 AM
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Just a stab in the dark, I'm sure there's some kind of neutral switch from the auto, could you not plug that in and trick the computer into thinking it's always in neutral? That should let it start and rev fine.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by X757XVeritas
Just a stab in the dark, I'm sure there's some kind of neutral switch from the auto, could you not plug that in and trick the computer into thinking it's always in neutral? That should let it start and rev fine.
Hello X757XVeritas

I will try to do something tomorrow
Then I came back again to let you know

Thanx for all
I'm happy for replys
 
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 09:43 AM
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As much as these cars are computer controlled I'm not positive it will work, but that's how I've done it on older vehicles before.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 05:52 PM
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Good luck with that but I bet there's no way you will get it to work without getting your ecu programmed.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 07:43 AM
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The switch to let the car start in park and neutral is basically the clutch switch in a manual. An auto car in neutral is basically a manual with the clutch pedal in as far as a computer is concerned.

Also way to be optimistic. I'm just trying to help him out till he can get it tuned right.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 07:59 AM
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Can't hurt to try that's for sure. Expensive to get that ecu programmed
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by X757XVeritas
The switch to let the car start in park and neutral is basically the clutch switch in a manual. An auto car in neutral is basically a manual with the clutch pedal in as far as a computer is concerned.

Also way to be optimistic. I'm just trying to help him out till he can get it tuned right.
Yes dear
It's work now after I replaced Ecu & imblisaor with anthore for S

But need program for abs traction
The throttle not working normally

I fill car not normal power

I will try tomorrow to program it with autologic

I hope it finish

Thank you and all
Will come back
 
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by X757XVeritas
The switch to let the car start in park and neutral is basically the clutch switch in a manual. An auto car in neutral is basically a manual with the clutch pedal in as far as a computer is concerned.

Also way to be optimistic. I'm just trying to help him out till he can get it tuned right.
Hello dears

Yes I did it
The car starting now normally with the original former ECU

Just i did something in wiring, jumper wire from EWS to ignition switch

The EP still showing in cluster without any effect
The engine working fine
Driving & gear changing so fine

See video 👇🏻
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogHqO5vheUk

every thing is done and fine without programming or coding

Thanx for every one try to help me
 
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 04:30 AM
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That's awesome, enjoy your new 6 speed!
 
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Shawnnn
That's awesome, enjoy your new 6 speed!
Thanx dear for your reply
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 09:07 AM
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I figured it could be done without programming, that's awesome! Enjoy your new transmission!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by X757XVeritas
I figured it could be done without programming, that's awesome! Enjoy your new transmission!
Tnx. dear for supports ☺️👍🏻
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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Great to hear you found a work-around fix!
The 6-speed should last just about forever.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2020 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by slide mini
Hello dears

Yes I did it
The car starting now normally with the original former ECU

Just i did something in wiring, jumper wire from EWS to ignition switch

The EP still showing in cluster without any effect
The engine working fine
Driving & gear changing so fine

See video 👇🏻
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogHqO5vheUk

every thing is done and fine without programming or coding

Thanx for every one try to help me
hi there is there any way you can tell wot wire this is to get it to work thanks
 
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Old Mar 23, 2020 | 06:17 AM
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Hell please

Hi can u help me with witch wire i need todo to make mine work thanks
 
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Originally Posted by slide mini
Hello dears

Yes I did it
The car starting now normally with the original former ECU

Just i did something in wiring, jumper wire from EWS to ignition switch

The EP still showing in cluster without any effect
The engine working fine
Driving & gear changing so fine

See video 👇🏻
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogHqO5vheUk

every thing is done and fine without programming or coding

Thanx for every one try to help me
Could you provide some pictures or explain how to do this? I did the exact same swap ( 03 base cvt to 6 speed lsd from 06 s).
 
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