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Old Jul 18, 2015 | 05:02 AM
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Fuel Filter??

My sons 05 Mini S has stalled out at idle a couple times in the past couple weeks. 115k miles and I'm pretty sure its the OEM filter. I'm thinking either filter or pump. Taking the cheapest route first obviously. Is there a change cycle for the fuel filter on these vehicles??
 
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Old Jul 18, 2015 | 05:12 AM
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I am not aware of a schedule for the fuel filter but I changed my daughter's R50 filter when she purchased it at 107,000 miles. It was quite dirty so my thought is to change it at 75k. No reason to make the fuel pump work harder.

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Old Jul 18, 2015 | 05:24 AM
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The fuel filters on the MINI's are huge! Even after 100,000+ miles, they will still flow plenty of fuel even if they are dirty.

If your sons car is stalling at idle, but not having any issues and driving speeds or higher RPM's.....I'd say you have something else going on besides a fuel related issue. Does it want to stall or die on you when the gas pedal is mashed to the floor?

Have you checked/replaced the plugs and wires? Air filter? Do you have a check engine light?

All that being said.....I replaced my fuel filter at around 100,000 also....just because It was dirty, but a new filter didn't make it run any differently.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2015 | 08:03 PM
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We recommend replacing the fuel filter every 100k miles.

http://www.waymotorworks.com/fuel-fi...0-r53-r52.html
 
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
The fuel filters on the MINI's are huge! Even after 100,000+ miles, they will still flow plenty of fuel even if they are dirty.

If your sons car is stalling at idle, but not having any issues and driving speeds or higher RPM's.....I'd say you have something else going on besides a fuel related issue. Does it want to stall or die on you when the gas pedal is mashed to the floor?

Have you checked/replaced the plugs and wires? Air filter? Do you have a check engine light?

All that being said.....I replaced my fuel filter at around 100,000 also....just because It was dirty, but a new filter didn't make it run any differently.

It doesn't stall when under throttle. Only when at idle. Its only done it a few times and the plugs are only 6 months old.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
The fuel filters on the MINI's are huge! Even after 100,000+ miles, they will still flow plenty of fuel even if they are dirty.

If your sons car is stalling at idle, but not having any issues and driving speeds or higher RPM's.....I'd say you have something else going on besides a fuel related issue. Does it want to stall or die on you when the gas pedal is mashed to the floor?

Have you checked/replaced the plugs and wires? Air filter? Do you have a check engine light?

All that being said.....I replaced my fuel filter at around 100,000 also....just because It was dirty, but a new filter didn't make it run any differently.
I disagree with you. see my thread here:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-starting.html

stalling and hard starting are the symptoms.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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At 115k miles, it's not a bad idea to replace the fuel filter. Here is a great DIY tech article that can help you with the replacement.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 12:06 PM
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Yeah even with the filter being as large as it is, most manufacturers recommend a change every 75k (at least those who aren't dumb enough to make one non-servicable). I'd say change it even if it isn't the problem. With that being said, if you're still running factory plugs and wires, you should just change those too. Even if everything is still firing, you'll notice a big difference with clean ignition. Fouling es no bueno.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by quickquest88
I disagree with you. see my thread here:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-starting.html

stalling and hard starting are the symptoms.
That would take about 5min to check with a fuel pressure gauge. If you have good fuel pressure when you turn the key on, and when the motor is idling....it's not the fuel filter.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
That would take about 5min to check with a fuel pressure gauge. If you have good fuel pressure when you turn the key on, and when the motor is idling....it's not the fuel filter.
Nope. I did that. Started the car and got the correct amount. I had good fuel pressure when starting and idling. But you can't drive with a fuel pressure tester attached and the intercooler off. Please don't confuse fuel pressure with fuel flow. getting 52 psi at 2-3% injector cycle is NOT the same thing as getting 52 psi with 20-30% injector cycle.
I replaced the fuel filter, and it fixed all my starting problems.
Maybe some, not all, of the people having these problems could have them fixed with a $60 fuel filter if it wasn't for others saying it couldn't possibly be the fuel filter causing them. It's 60 bux, and if you have never changed the filter, what could it hurt?
In my case it WAS the fuel filter causing my problem.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 08:02 AM
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+1 on checking that fuel filter .

Here is the fuel filter for the R50 R52 R53 MINI Gen 1.

Fuel Filter Kit. Part number 16146757196


http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/16146757196/






The ring can be removed with constantly tapping it out. Flat head screw driver works pretty good.

Here is your DIY thread for the fuel filter for Gen 1 MINIs.

Click here for a great how to thread.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 08:20 AM
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The ring can be removed with constantly tapping it out. Flat head screw driver works pretty good.
The premise of tapping at that steel ring with a steel screwdriver makes me uneasy, especially with a tankful of petrol just sitting there just below... Isn't there a chance of a spark with steel on steel?

Methinks a safer solution would be a rubber mallet and hardwood dowel or brass punch...

Just sayin...
 
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 08:26 AM
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That's what was done in the DIY linked , You are outside the system. Not inside the tank or anything. If you have a line leak on the outside on top of that, then a small wood block could work, might be a little more hard to get the ring to spin and the wood might be soft and not pin point.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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Just replace your filter


 
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