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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 12:05 PM
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Any 215/45/17 tires that will actualy last??

I’m getting ready to buy another set of set tires. My mini had runflats on it when I bought it back in 2011. When those wore out I put some G-Force Sport tires on it and those wore out with around 16,000 miles on them. Then I put a set of Sumitomo HTR III’s….and they have around 15,000 miles on them and I think I’ll have to replace them soon. For a daily driver that never sees the track, and gets mostly driven on the highway….is there a 215/45/17 tire I can put on my car that will last longer. Something that would go 20,000, or even 30,000 miles before wearing out would be great. Is that possible?

I've never changed tires this often on a car/truck. Even the huge Nitto Terra Grapplers I run on my truck will go 50,000 miles before being worn out.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 12:42 PM
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I just installed Michelin Pilot Sport AS3's , came with a 45K warranty, so far the best tire I have had, I'll be happy if I can get 25K out of it. I am on my 4th set of tires in 13K , I am very **** about tires.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 12:47 PM
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You are on your 4th set in 13,000 miles?? You only get 3,250 miles on a set of tires?? Am I reading that right? If so.....are you sure you don't have some alignment /suspension issues? Or is it a track car?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 12:59 PM
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not exactly, first factory set was run flats, ditched them ASAP, hated them, then ran DW's, started to wear fast and then I bought new wheels, went to 17's . Then put 5K on Khumo ecsta AST's, and they were down to 4/32's , no alignment issues, very even wear but I basically track my car every day, I love driving hard and fast.

There is rubber all over my parking lot at work that the tread pattern matches mine LOL
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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This going to sound mean, but stop buying low price point purchase tires.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 02:43 PM
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[QUOTE=Nicefeet;4101357]This going to sound mean, but stop buying low price point purchase tires.[/QUOTE

Conti DW S NOT Cheap and I just put on Michelins ?? The Khumos were cheap .
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 03:26 PM
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This going to sound mean, but stop buying low price point purchase tires.
Conti DW S NOT Cheap and I just put on Michelins ?? The Khumos were cheap .
I think his reply was directed to the OP
 
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If I knew that expensive tires would last longer than the cheap ones.....i would get them. But what's the point of paying more for "better" tires of they don't last any longer? If better tires cost 50% more...but I'm only getting 25% more life out of them...well, do the math......
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
If I knew that expensive tires would last longer than the cheap ones.....i would get them. But what's the point of paying more for "better" tires of they don't last any longer? If better tires cost 50% more...but I'm only getting 25% more life out of them...well, do the math......
What's a good mount and balance cost these days $60-$70-80-90-$100?

What's your time worth?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 04:20 PM
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Do you have a suggestion for a "good" tire that will last 25,000+ miles??
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
Do you have a suggestion for a "good" tire that will last 25,000+ miles??

There's this wonderful company called Tire Rack that has reviews, specs and detailed information about buying tires.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicefeet
There's this wonderful company called Tire Rack that has reviews, specs and detailed information about buying tires.
So basically what you are saying is that you have no idea what to recommend....

According to Tirerack....the G-Force Sports I had rate 4 out of 5 stars....and have a tread life score of "Excellent.

The Sumitomo HTR ZIII's also rate 4 out of 5 starts, and have a tread life score of "Excellent".

So as you can see.......just because tires rate good on tirerack doesn't mean that are all that great. Both the G-Force tires and HTR ZIII's were dead after 15,000 miles or so.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 04:50 PM
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80,000 mile warranty, $120/tire:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 04:59 PM
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Just buy a tire that does not say ''Sport" or "Track". Buy something like a "Touring" Tire it will last usually way longer.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 05:05 AM
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i think the OP is looking for a decent lasting tire that performs..... I am currently running the HTR z3 as well, I love them, you could go with the Pilot power AS3, loose some grip, gain life. Pilot powers have a 30k mile warranty, but for most they don't last that long.


you will just have to justify the UTG rating and the Traction for what you want. honestly I am super satisfied with the sumi's and will most likely get them again, at their price point I don't mind swapping them 15k-20k miles
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 05:32 AM
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Hankook V12 EVO. Awesome tires for the money. Be sure to rotate front-to-back, back- to-front every 5K miles.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 05:33 AM
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I am running General G-Max on mine. They seem to be holding up well, and price is great! Made by Continental.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 05:35 AM
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...Road Noise is also a consideration.

I have a set of Goodyear GT and they are super grippy with great wear, but rather loud when compared to the set of Yokohamas I have on the other R53. And the Continentals I have on the R52 have been fantastic on wear, but not as grippy as I would like... but they do make it really easy to squeal them off the line and when shifting gears... but they are Run Flats and when paired up with a sports suspension they can be a bit harsh on secondary roads ...

I have Goodyear F1 Supercar tires on my Dodge Challenger, these are super grippy with very low road noise. I think they are so much better than All Season type tires, and I do run Bridgestone Blizzaks in the winter, these are great Winter tires, good grip, long life and low road noise.

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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
Do you have a suggestion for a "good" tire that will last 25,000+ miles??
I'm baffled nobody has brought up the only relevant metric: UTQG

Choose a tire with a UTQG of 350 or greater to achieve your 25k mile preference. Of course, that's assuming your alignment is biased to low wear [read: no aggressive camber or toe] and your driving habits involve strictly low g-forces in all axes.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltysalt
...you could go with the Pilot power AS3, loose some grip, gain life. Pilot powers have a 30k mile warranty, but for most they don't last that long.
What tire is this?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 08:24 AM
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I'm running g/force sports and get about 45k out of them. With an alignment. I have Koni yellows and h&r springs with upper and lower adjustable control arms and a sway bar. My car is far from stock. If I only got 20k miles I would be pissed and have to buy tires every year.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 08:30 AM
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I have run Dunlop Direzza DZ101 almost exclusively on my R53 and average around 35k miles.

You absolutely must rotate your tires every 3-5k miles or the uneven wear will mean early replacement.

Tire Rack currently has the DZ102 in 205/45 17 for $85 per tire. UTQG of 460.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by gpwpat
I'm running g/force sports and get about 45k out of them. With an alignment. I have Koni yellows and h&r springs with upper and lower adjustable control arms and a sway bar. My car is far from stock. If I only got 20k miles I would be pissed and have to buy tires every year.


I have NEVER heard of a mini owner getting that kind of mileage out of a set of tires, especially out of a soft "summer performance" type tire.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 10:03 PM
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Well you have now. I buy tires every other April during the BFGoodrich $70 rebate . Sometimes I put them on the shelf until I need them. I drive just over 20k miles per year for the last 12 years. I have 233k miles on my mini cooper s.
 

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BFG G-force Sport Comp-2 has no treadwear warranty.
BFG G-force Super Sport A/S has a 50k warranty for V-rated tires.
 
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