R50/53 Power Steering Delete experience?
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I didn't buy the Condor fitting, but I did try a delete with a braided hose. I couldn't enjoy my Mini as much on the road and I would hate driving it on the track like this. Since I do some track during the season, I just don't see how I could have fun while having to fight the steering wheel so much. The rack is just not geared for manual steering.
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I assume you went back to the ps pump - hopefully it continues to function for you.
I'm the second owner of my MCS as of about a month ago. It's an early build 2005 with only 15,xxx miles and I was very surprised a few days ago when the ps started to go. I knew about the ps issues but thought for sure I had a few more miles before it went south! I plan to go the dealer warranty replacement route but I thought that the delete approach might be a reasonable backup plan.
Thanks for your input.
I'm the second owner of my MCS as of about a month ago. It's an early build 2005 with only 15,xxx miles and I was very surprised a few days ago when the ps started to go. I knew about the ps issues but thought for sure I had a few more miles before it went south! I plan to go the dealer warranty replacement route but I thought that the delete approach might be a reasonable backup plan.
Thanks for your input.
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8/18/14 review from r34king:
"Well after 3 weeks with mine in, I can say I love it(condor). Got used to it after a few days and now I wouldn't go back unless I lost an arm. Although parking maneuvers are still tricky."
We shouldn't expect the Condor kit to be close to having a pump, but it'll get your MINI running w/o worries about leaks, fire, cost. For $50, it can either be a temp or permanent mod.
Gotta acknowledge & thank Da Ghost for doing this experiment & sharing valued 1st hand experience & feedback!
"Well after 3 weeks with mine in, I can say I love it(condor). Got used to it after a few days and now I wouldn't go back unless I lost an arm. Although parking maneuvers are still tricky."
We shouldn't expect the Condor kit to be close to having a pump, but it'll get your MINI running w/o worries about leaks, fire, cost. For $50, it can either be a temp or permanent mod.
Gotta acknowledge & thank Da Ghost for doing this experiment & sharing valued 1st hand experience & feedback!
Last edited by minsanity; 03-15-2015 at 07:26 AM.
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I assume you went back to the ps pump - hopefully it continues to function for you.
I'm the second owner of my MCS as of about a month ago. It's an early build 2005 with only 15,xxx miles and I was very surprised a few days ago when the ps started to go. I knew about the ps issues but thought for sure I had a few more miles before it went south! I plan to go the dealer warranty replacement route but I thought that the delete approach might be a reasonable backup plan.
Thanks for your input.
I'm the second owner of my MCS as of about a month ago. It's an early build 2005 with only 15,xxx miles and I was very surprised a few days ago when the ps started to go. I knew about the ps issues but thought for sure I had a few more miles before it went south! I plan to go the dealer warranty replacement route but I thought that the delete approach might be a reasonable backup plan.
Thanks for your input.
My 2005, does have this warrenty....and you can get a rebuild from rockauto for a couple hundred $$ if not covered...or a lifetime warrenty one from napa for an extra $100...
When these cars are true classics, if that ever hsppens, I see the delete kit being useful.... But till then...penny wise, pound foolish.....ever price the cost of the PLASTIC U JOINTS...in the steering wheel shaft joint...already in short supply (must use the right hand drive ones)...those are the items I see limiting the kit....
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Yup..you are covered...
Based on the date...
You also (if it was never updated) have the old wiring setup (changed 1-05) in which a blown PS fsn fuse can disable the radiator fan...so if you are going to mini of pebody or mini of Bedford (same owner)...ask, they might do the fix for free to bring the car up to 2005 standards...there was a service campaign... A bit of a reach after 10 years...but you might get lucky...
Based on the date...
You also (if it was never updated) have the old wiring setup (changed 1-05) in which a blown PS fsn fuse can disable the radiator fan...so if you are going to mini of pebody or mini of Bedford (same owner)...ask, they might do the fix for free to bring the car up to 2005 standards...there was a service campaign... A bit of a reach after 10 years...but you might get lucky...
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When these cars are true classics, if that ever hsppens, I see the delete kit being useful.... But till then...penny wise, pound foolish.....ever price the cost of the PLASTIC U JOINTS...in the steering wheel shaft joint...already in short supply (must use the right hand drive ones)...those are the items I see limiting the kit....
Kinda sad that we have to prepare ourselves for the words NLA.
#9
Yup..you are covered...
Based on the date...
You also (if it was never updated) have the old wiring setup (changed 1-05) in which a blown PS fsn fuse can disable the radiator fan...so if you are going to mini of pebody or mini of Bedford (same owner)...ask, they might do the fix for free to bring the car up to 2005 standards...there was a service campaign... A bit of a reach after 10 years...but you might get lucky...
Based on the date...
You also (if it was never updated) have the old wiring setup (changed 1-05) in which a blown PS fsn fuse can disable the radiator fan...so if you are going to mini of pebody or mini of Bedford (same owner)...ask, they might do the fix for free to bring the car up to 2005 standards...there was a service campaign... A bit of a reach after 10 years...but you might get lucky...
#10
Thom at Greasy's recommended seeing Mark at Mini of Boston so I made an appointment to see him in a week or so. I'll definitely ask about the wiring fix - thanks for the info. Did I mention that my car has only 15,500 miles? Certainly didn't expect pa failure until I had a few more miles!
guess mini of boston has gotten better.... know herb chambers service department was pretty bad for a bit....then they started suggesting some folks with some issues go to see pete...just keep yours eyes open. have had good luck with peabody/bedford, and know a person at inskip down in RI....so i have never dealt with mini of boston....
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certainly a failure so soon is odd....no issues with mine..then again, have never had any of the "common" issues beyond swapping out a radiator fan and the upper motor mounts....
guess mini of boston has gotten better.... know herb chambers service department was pretty bad for a bit....then they started suggesting some folks with some issues go to see pete...just keep yours eyes open. have had good luck with peabody/bedford, and know a person at inskip down in RI....so i have never dealt with mini of boston....
guess mini of boston has gotten better.... know herb chambers service department was pretty bad for a bit....then they started suggesting some folks with some issues go to see pete...just keep yours eyes open. have had good luck with peabody/bedford, and know a person at inskip down in RI....so i have never dealt with mini of boston....
#12
Back from M of B with good news/bad news ... My PS pump and fan are working just fine but my lower steering column shaft/ujoint is binding causing the steering problem. Problem now is lower steering shaft assemblies are not being produced and no one has any in stock. WMW sold their last used one a while back. Will try to lube it but hunting for a used one now.
Call them though as I am not sure how accurate their site inventory is??
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Back from M of B with good news/bad news ... My PS pump and fan are working just fine but my lower steering column shaft/ujoint is binding causing the steering problem. Problem now is lower steering shaft assemblies are not being produced and no one has any in stock. WMW sold their last used one a while back. Will try to lube it but hunting for a used one now.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/used-lo...0-r52-r53.html
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Back from M of B with good news/bad news ... My PS pump and fan are working just fine but my lower steering column shaft/ujoint is binding causing the steering problem. Problem now is lower steering shaft assemblies are not being produced and no one has any in stock. WMW sold their last used one a while back. Will try to lube it but hunting for a used one now.
If the joint is worn...I am wondering if it was just dry, or if it is due to maybe you got a track rat car?! Hope you looked at more than the miles....
But if this ujoint is the only issue, you got s great find....so few miles on a r53!!
Good luck!!
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Call Pete...we if he can get you a NEW RHD one and install it...no big deal...me...I would not install a used one of new will fit....the labor is the $$ part unless you are a diy'er....
If the joint is worn...I am wondering if it was just dry, or if it is due to maybe you got a track rat car?! Hope you looked at more than the miles....
But if this ujoint is the only issue, you got s great find....so few miles on a r53!!
Good luck!!
If the joint is worn...I am wondering if it was just dry, or if it is due to maybe you got a track rat car?! Hope you looked at more than the miles....
But if this ujoint is the only issue, you got s great find....so few miles on a r53!!
Good luck!!
No evidence to suggest a track rat - small mods are mine - otherwise dead stock down to the original awful runflats.
I may pursue the RHD if there's really one available but I'm thinking to take the shaft out first and see what's what for my self - maybe lube it and see. Or have Greasy's look at it when they mount my summer tires. Steering is only just annoying right now and my garage is still cold as hell.
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Update. For anyone interested .... My binding lower steering shaft got better (easier steering) as the weather warmed up a little. Then went to Greasy's where Pete lubed it. It's been completely normal for a while now. Also, I did go ahead and install the rather pricey power steering fan duct.
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Update. For anyone interested .... My binding lower steering shaft got better (easier steering) as the weather warmed up a little. Then went to Greasy's where Pete lubed it. It's been completely normal for a while now. Also, I did go ahead and install the rather pricey power steering fan duct.
Have had it on my car for 6 years I think...
Never had a PS pump issue...and have not had a PS fan fail since the duct install...
Makes changing the oil take an extra 2 minutes, but no big deal...
With the PS fans being so $$, I figure the duct has saved me a few fans...I was getting one filled with grit every 2 years before....
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