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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 09:30 PM
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need a motor

Hey everyone, I blew my engine in my R53 and I would like to replace it with a jcw motor...Anyone know where I can get my hands on one without going through the remanufactured ones at Way Motors or trying to buy one out of a salvaged vehicle?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 04:38 AM
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What happened to your motor?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 04:53 AM
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If not one designed by Way ( excellent option ) and not from salvage yard, it leaves two rather obvious choices. The dealer or private sale.....
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 07:21 AM
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bent crank shaft
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:01 AM
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I had a suggestion but but apparently someone didn't like it.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Please remember, a r53 "JCW" motor is only different cause the head is ported and the sc has a pulley...then add the 380 injectors and the JCW 210 tune for post 2005 cars....and the motor is the same....mechanically the motors are the same...it us the bolt on stuff that makes a JCW motor a jcw...remember, the JCW was a dealer "bolt on option" on gen1 cars for most years...
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by carswithmuscles
bent crank shaft
ouch, how'd that happen
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 12:10 PM
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I think the oil was too low...started knockin...thought it was the tensioner, then the guide, then the chain and so on and son on. Finally had the rod bearings replaced and they started knockin with in 15 mins. I think the only reasonable answer would be a bent crank? Wish I could keep this engine; less than 40k, 16% s/c pulley, 2% crank pulley, ns1 cam and adjusted cam gear that I never got to experience, obviously tons of other new parts as well. I ordered this car brand new in '04, it's an '05. Over the years I have done tons of suspension work and many other things to make it my own. I love this car and I just don't know what to do anymore. I suppose I could go for an "S" engine, and keep moddin that out...but I'm not made of money...so...idk.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 12:20 PM
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See what RMW has to offer. Usually great prices for great performance. They have a badass 1.8L stroker.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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awesome, I will call Jan tomorrow...Thanks!!
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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sorry audiontoxication...I thank u too!!
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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You're welcome even if mine got deleted.....

You won't regret the power.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by carswithmuscles
I think the oil was too low...started knockin...thought it was the tensioner, then the guide, then the chain and so on and son on. Finally had the rod bearings replaced and they started knockin with in 15 mins. I think the only reasonable answer would be a bent crank? Wish I could keep this engine; less than 40k, 16% s/c pulley, 2% crank pulley, ns1 cam and adjusted cam gear that I never got to experience, obviously tons of other new parts as well. I ordered this car brand new in '04, it's an '05. Over the years I have done tons of suspension work and many other things to make it my own. I love this car and I just don't know what to do anymore. I suppose I could go for an "S" engine, and keep moddin that out...but I'm not made of money...so...idk.

Did you not replace the crankshaft? If you didn't, then you probably scored the crank too much when you blew the bearings and there was too much clearance causing the bearings to get beat up again. I'm sure it definitely needed a new crank and probably you could just do that and have it fixed.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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but isn't replacing a crank more expensive than buying an engine??
 
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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It's expensive, but not new engine expensive. I sourced a crank for $350 for my r50....
 
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Old Oct 21, 2014 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by carswithmuscles
but isn't replacing a crank more expensive than buying an engine??
Crank and bearings is around $1K. It's the labour that kills (if you don't do it yourself).

Be very careful to seal the bedplate with the right sealant (anaerobic) as shown in the TIS
 
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Old Oct 21, 2014 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeN
It's expensive, but not new engine expensive. I sourced a crank for $350 for my r50....
That's a brilliant price!
 
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 07:20 AM
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Check out this 9 part series on rebuilding a 2004 MCS motor on youtube. It's an excellent series that may help you on you project.
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 07:25 AM
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Oops I meant to post this link
 
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 07:27 AM
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I can't seem to get this right....I hope this works...


 
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 07:28 AM
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Never mind....I must be having a brain fart... lol
 
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 07:32 AM
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I think I got it. here is the link:


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhrpX5SoQ9uJ1pvmQkCbOo66RG3nUfd9O
 
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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good call...was already watching some of his series...think I might order a 1.62 from Jan at RMW, but idk yet.
Thanks
 
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 06:04 PM
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That's the motor I have, but I don't have the head and header yet. 227whp.

If you're getting the forged pistons just know you HAVE to warm them up before you can even move the car (~175°f water). Then you have to keep it out of boost until the oil is warmed up. But after its all warmed up you can beat on it mercilessly and it will ask for more.

I am currently using my mini as a daily driver until I can get my e30 running again. It's absolutely doable you just have to plan a little ahead, the motor is totally civilized and fine sitting in traffic and what have you.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 08:06 AM
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haha...I have an E30 too!
 
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