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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Should I order some adjustable control arms?

I just ordered some wheels 16x8 et20 should I go ahead and order some adjustable control arms?
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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You're only going to want adjustable if you are lowering the car or absolutely feel the need to have them.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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I say yes, at least for the lower rears. Even with a completely stock setup, my rear camber was extreme with the stock arms, which caused excessive tire wear on the inside of the tire for every day driving.

With the adjustables in now, I still have all the handling I could want, and more normal tire wear too. They give you the flexibility to get the car setup to your driving style, and ultimately could let you get more miles out of your rear tires.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:34 PM
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I am lowering it just ordered koni shocks and nm lowering springs
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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Then you'll definitely need some, otherwise your rear camber is going to be really extreme. You can get by with just the two lower arms.

Without the uppers, the rear toe might end up being off by a little, but it wouldn't really be anything to worry about.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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If you are lowering you def will want them, as control arms are cheaper than 2 worn out tires.
Go with the Hsports as we've found them to be the most reliable.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/h-sport...ber-links.html
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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Agreed. H-sports have been working great on mine.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Waymotorworks if I order them now will you send them out with my gp intercooler and ddm diverter that you said you would be shipping tommorow?
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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Quick story.

I lowered my JCW R52 using the JCW springs so it was only a 1/2" drop. When I tried to get my alignment right but couldn't. I ordered the Hsports and they are very good quality. I installed them and got my alignment spot on my desired numbers. I took it for a ride and went to dinner with some friends, when I was heading back to my car one of my friends noticed my camber was very severe. I thought he was joking but when I took a closer look it was visibly extreme. I looked under the rear with a flashlight and discovered the lock nuts had worked loose and allowed the adjustment barrel to move freely. Luckily, we were able to jack it up and eyeball adjust it and lock them down again enough for me to get home. I took it back to the shop and they re-aligned it and used locktite on the lock nuts and have not had any issues since. Probably just operator error on the first alignment but I might suggest using locktite for insurance on your install. I also installed IE fixed camber plates on the front and that has proved to be a great setup for me.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Swimbaxter
Quick story.

I lowered my JCW R52 using the JCW springs so it was only a 1/2" drop. When I tried to get my alignment right but couldn't. I ordered the Hsports and they are very good quality. I installed them and got my alignment spot on my desired numbers. I took it for a ride and went to dinner with some friends, when I was heading back to my car one of my friends noticed my camber was very severe. I thought he was joking but when I took a closer look it was visibly extreme. I looked under the rear with a flashlight and discovered the lock nuts had worked loose and allowed the adjustment barrel to move freely. Luckily, we were able to jack it up and eyeball adjust it and lock them down again enough for me to get home. I took it back to the shop and they re-aligned it and used locktite on the lock nuts and have not had any issues since. Probably just operator error on the first alignment but I might suggest using locktite for insurance on your install. I also installed IE fixed camber plates on the front and that has proved to be a great setup for me.
Have had the same exact thing happen on my H-sport arms many times. For a while there we were changing alignments every few weeks so blue loctite was kind of a pain. I just bought a big (1-1/8" maybe?) wrench so that I could really tighten down the lock nuts. Haven't had a problem since.
 
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