Cheers!

New guy here!

Facts:
- Ordered with East Bay MINI (Pleasanton, CA) 11/03 w/$1,000 dep. for '04 Cooper

- ETA April/May 2004

- Cabriolet on sale (Europe) summer 2004 with "minor" face lifts for ALL coopers

- Face lift includes: bumpers, sills, interior "tweaks", roof spoiler, wheels, more

My question(s) to ANYONE who has FACTS...

Will the 2004 "face lifted" MINI Cooper arrive here in summer 2004 as well? If so, does anyone know if I can have my order put on "hold" so I can receive the 2004.5/2005 updated model? Lastly does anyone know if the face lift will include any of the following: Bi-Xenon headlamps, power seats, hands free phone with Navigation.

Thanks in advance for your ACCURATE and FACTUAL information (not your "guess&quot.

P.S.
While I make NO claim to be an expert, I obtained this information DIRECTLY from BMW AG while attending the IAA in Frankfurt this past September. Also, you can see photos of the "face lifted" 2004 MINI in the January 2004 issue of CAR (British periodical) and the Feb. 2004 issue of EVO (British).

P.S.S.
I also have photos of vehicles not seen or sold in the U.S. I took while at the IAA feel free to email me at allroadguy@sbcglobal.net if you'd like copies.

allroadguy
2002 VW Golf TDI
2001 Audi allroad
2000 BMW 540i
And coming soon 2004 or 2004.5 or 2005 MINI Cooper! Doh!

 

Those photos in EVO are not the new facelifted MINI, but you can get a lot of information and photos here: http://www.mini2.com/news/news201.html and then following the news articles that lead off from that at the bottom of the report.

:smile:

 

--->allroadguy; Welcome to NAM :smile:
The "facelifted" MINI is MY05, and historically doesn't start production until September 1st, so you can expect to see the first '05's here in the States by the 3rd week of September. There are no rumors of bi-xenon, or power adjustable seats, and also it would be cost prohibitive to impliment these features so late in the platform cycle. I'm not sure about the hands-free Nav.

Paul - nice to see you here!
Cheers,
Ryan

 

>>--->allroadguy; Welcome to NAM :smile:
>>The "facelifted" MINI is MY05, and historically doesn't start production until September 1st, so you can expect to see the first '05's here in the States by the 3rd week of September. There are no rumors of bi-xenon, or power adjustable seats, and also it would be cost prohibitive to impliment these features so late in the platform cycle. I'm not sure about the hands-free Nav.
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>>Paul - nice to see you here!
>>Cheers,
>>Ryan

The lights should be changing but I haven't heard of bi-xenons. That being said BMW is known to change things late in the production cycle - just wait until 2006 :smile:

 

BTW there already is a hands free option in the form of the bluetooth kit available from your local MINI dealer.

 

If you're ordering a 5-speed Cooper, I'd say it's definitely worth your while to wait for the new Getrag transmission on the '05s. The current Midlands one is crap. Mine just failed at 15k, and it's not an isolated problem. The tranny can't handle the extreme cold. Lame.
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"Meine dispatcher says there is something wrong with deine cable"

 

>>If you're ordering a 5-speed Cooper, I'd say it's definitely worth your while to wait for the new Getrag transmission on the '05s. The current Midlands one is crap. Mine just failed at 15k, and it's not an isolated problem. The tranny can't handle the extreme cold. Lame.
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>> "Meine dispatcher says there is something wrong with deine cable"

Yeah I would wait for the Getrag as well - I missed the fact that you had ordered a Cooper. However I would defintely not call the midlands unit crap - it's failure rates aren't unusually high. That being said it isn't has reliable as the getrag historically.

Here's some history behind the Midlands 5-speed: http://www.bridger.us/mini/?Y=2003&M...r5-speedManual

 

Thanks everyone!

I appreciate all your candid replies and information - very helpful!

Cheers for now!

 

Not that I have anything else to contribute...but I also have a 2001 allroad....pretty cool.

cheers
jon

 

>>--->allroadguy; Welcome to NAM :smile:
>>The "facelifted" MINI is MY05, and historically doesn't start production until September 1st, so you can expect to see the first '05's here in the States by the 3rd week of September. There are no rumors of bi-xenon, or power adjustable seats, and also it would be cost prohibitive to impliment these features so late in the platform cycle. I'm not sure about the hands-free Nav.
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>>Paul - nice to see you here!
>>Cheers,
>>Ryan

With that being said, when do you think the Mini website will have it so you can set up the new '05 the way you want it?

 

I am about to order a IB/W MCS, would anyone wait until September to get the 2005 (I know IB might be gone by then)? I do not know if I can wait THAT long. In the long run will a 2004 be worth more or less than a 2005 since the 2004 is the original redesign? Anyone know what mods the interior is getting? A factory armrest would be nice. Thanks!

Jason

 

>>I am about to order a IB/W MCS, would anyone wait until September to get the 2005 (I know IB might be gone by then)? I do not know if I can wait THAT long. In the long run will a 2004 be worth more or less than a 2005 since the 2004 is the original redesign? Anyone know what mods the interior is getting? A factory armrest would be nice. Thanks!
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>>Jason
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Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

 

If you decide to wait maybe you can get that awesome new blue color featured on the MINI convertible (without the green flubber, of course )

 

In the interest of immediate gratification, I'd get a 2004. Why wait? I also think it would be preferable to have the earlier, original version, but I'm a purist.


>>>>I am about to order a IB/W MCS, would anyone wait until September to get the 2005 (I know IB might be gone by then)? I do not know if I can wait THAT long. In the long run will a 2004 be worth more or less than a 2005 since the 2004 is the original redesign? Anyone know what mods the interior is getting? A factory armrest would be nice. Thanks!
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>>>>Jason
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>>Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!
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>>If you decide to wait maybe you can get that awesome new blue color featured on the MINI convertible (without the green flubber, of course :smile: