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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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As long as we're talking fender-benders...

I know some of you folks have been down this road before.
Feel free to give me your damage estimates, and I'll tell you what State Farm has come up with.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Lemme take a guess.... Between $6K-$8K for that baby.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Im going to go WAY out there. With things I have read on NAM and the stories Ive heard.

That is anywhere from $10 000 to $12 000
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ClubmanS
Lemme take a guess.... Between $6K-$8K for that baby.
Do you work for State Farm?
$8,691 is their guess.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Im going to go WAY out there. With things I have read on NAM and the stories Ive heard.

That is anywhere from $10 000 to $12 000
I hope you're wrong; though I'm a bit nervous.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Whalen Machine
Do you work for State Farm?
$8,691 is their guess.
Nope

But by looking at the photos there seems to be substantial damage made to the front suspension, in addition to the hood, fender, bumper cover, trim, headlight assembly, radiator, A/C compressor, etc.

Not only the parts make up the estimate but the hours/labor, shop supplies, disposal fees, etc.

What the heck did you hit? Had airbag(s) deployed?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Whalen Machine
I hope you're wrong; though I'm a bit nervous.
Ya, well keep in mind Im Canadian. Perhaps I didnt get all those exchange rates correct! LOL

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Nope

But by looking at the photos there seems to be substantial damage made to the front suspension, in addition to the hood, fender, bumper cover, trim, headlight assembly, radiator, A/C compressor, etc.

Not only the parts make up the estimate but the hours/labor, shop supplies, disposal fees, etc.

What the heck did you hit? Had airbag(s) deployed?
Yup, good question... What the HECK did you hit?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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In the early 90's I had a Volkswagen Corrado, blew the front driver's side tire and hit a concrete butler barrier at about 6o mph. Looked just like your car.

It cost $7000 to repair--I would bet that their estimate is pretty close.

My sincere sympathy but the most important thing is that no one was badly hurt or killed.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Off topic: I used to like the VW Corrado. The only VW of the time that didn't look like a cheap box on wheels. Never owned one, but I did see a Corrado the other day in very good shape.

I think the design has aged incredibly well. Sadly that was not the case for the rest of the VW lineup in those days (maybe save for the VW EuroVan).
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ClubmanS
Off topic: I used to like the VW Corrado. The only VW of the time that didn't look like a cheap box on wheels. Never owned one, but I did see a Corrado the other day in very good shape.

I think the design has aged incredibly well. Sadly that was not the case for the rest of the VW lineup in those days (maybe save for the VW EuroVan).

While waiting for the answer on how on earth he destroyed the front end of his Mini, and since we are talking about VW and the Corrado. I was watching Fifth Gear the other day and this came to mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glyc2FmHVRI
 
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Originally Posted by ClubmanS
Nope

But by looking at the photos there seems to be substantial damage made to the front suspension, in addition to the hood, fender, bumper cover, trim, headlight assembly, radiator, A/C compressor, etc.

Not only the parts make up the estimate but the hours/labor, shop supplies, disposal fees, etc.

What the heck did you hit? Had airbag(s) deployed?
My son did battle with a telephone pole. No injuries, other than a couple airbag burns and a small bump on the noggin.
 
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Telephone Pole = 1 Your Son = 0

Im glad to know that everyone is alright! That is the main thing!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirkz24
Telephone Pole = 1 Your Son = 0

Im glad to know that everyone is alright! That is the main thing!
Yep, I learned that years ago, when his older brother rolled my Toyota pickup; then again when he rolled my M Roadster.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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I think the damage is going to be more than 8K. Once they start ripping stuff open, there could be more internal damage. Getting hit on the front side is never a good thing. Hit the wrong spot and everything in your engine bay is shifted. Even when fixed, it'll never drive the same again. Not saying this is the situation that your in but hopefully it's just the suspension and some body damage. I don't there's much in that area anyways. Good luck.

BTW. My guess after they open stuff up is $10,000 to $11,000
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MrCooperS
I think the damage is going to be more than 8K. Once they start ripping stuff open, there could be more internal damage. Getting hit on the front side is never a good thing. Hit the wrong spot and everything in your engine bay is shifted. Even when fixed, it'll never drive the same again. Not saying this is the situation that your in but hopefully it's just the suspension and some body damage. I don't there's much in that area anyways. Good luck.

BTW. My guess after they open stuff up is $10,000 to $11,000
You may be right; time will tell. It's got a busted axle for sure.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Whalen Machine
Yep, I learned that years ago, when his older brother rolled my Toyota pickup; then again when he rolled my M Roadster.

 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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As already said, at least everyone is ok.
Let's start a tally, maybe even with prices...

hood
fender
bumper cover
bumper support
headlight assembly
airbags
wheel
tire
wheel arch trim
hub assembly
radiator shroud
strut/spring assembly

Everyone keep adding as they see fit. That way maybe you'll get a good idea of what's to come, plus we can all see how accurately we assessed it!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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you forgot to add "labor"
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Whalen Machine
You may be right; time will tell. It's got a busted axle for sure.
Yeah man, I'm sorry that had to happen. I remember when I got T-Boned. They looked at my car and quoted $4.5K for parts and labor. They opened it up and then added another $3K for internal damage.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Don't worry how much it costs, just find yourself a quailified repair facility.
I'm a collision estimator and I work with S.F. as well many others at an independent collision repair facility in Florida. If you request S.F. will give you a list of repair facilities in you area that meet the S.F. required repair criteria. If you should decide on one of these shops. ( In the U.S. they are called Select Service Repair Facilities) You will have a lifetime warranty on the work completed which is good anywhere S.F. services. If you should choose a Non-Select Service shop. Your warranty is only with that shop not S.F.
P.S. If you need help, and are not sure what is what on the estimate, I would be happy to assist you. PM me and I'll give you my fax number at work. Please include your email address.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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That one's gonna cost. In addition to the body work you will have suspension, steering and tranny. Here is a pic of my front end damage.


This cost 18K. I told my insurance guys to total it but they insisted it would only cost 6k. Ended up costing more than I paid for it new. Yours looks like it took a pretty hard hit.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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I wouldn't even start repairing that car. I would total it. It may never can be made right for the cost of replacing it. I don't think anyone could say that car can be made perfect with any shred of certainty.
 
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Originally Posted by Whalen Machine
Yep, I learned that years ago, when his older brother rolled my Toyota pickup; then again when he rolled my M Roadster.
I think these boys need to go to a driving school. Or start studying bus routes!
 
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Originally Posted by ClubmanS
Off topic: I used to like the VW Corrado. The only VW of the time that didn't look like a cheap box on wheels. Never owned one, but I did see a Corrado the other day in very good shape.

I think the design has aged incredibly well. Sadly that was not the case for the rest of the VW lineup in those days (maybe save for the VW EuroVan).
Agreed, They had a supercharged V6 engine in some of those....

Take a look at the New Scirocco coming to a VW dealer near you in 2010.





With all this, the U.S.-market 2010 Volkswagen Scirocco should be pitched as a European grand-touring coupe that's quick in a straight line and entertaining on twisty roads, yet decently frugal with fuel and more affordable than a comparable BMW or Mercedes-Benz. Car and Driver magazine predicts the turbo-four powertrain will claim EPA ratings of 22 mpg city and 29 highway, plus 0-60 mph acceleration of just over six seconds.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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The new Scirocco is not coming to the US VW confirmed this towards the tail end of last year. Instead we will be getting an uglier re-designed VW New Beetle. Exciting, eh?


Originally Posted by Eurothrasher
Agreed, They had a supercharged V6 engine in some of those....

Take a look at the New Scirocco coming to a VW dealer near you in 2010.





With all this, the U.S.-market 2010 Volkswagen Scirocco should be pitched as a European grand-touring coupe that's quick in a straight line and entertaining on twisty roads, yet decently frugal with fuel and more affordable than a comparable BMW or Mercedes-Benz. Car and Driver magazine predicts the turbo-four powertrain will claim EPA ratings of 22 mpg city and 29 highway, plus 0-60 mph acceleration of just over six seconds.
 
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