WHEW! The Motor Is Finally Apart!
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
It's one of them. They did many versions of many cars, and actually made some prototypes from scratch. I was reading the history of Pininfarina and Abarth on the www.carsfromitaly.com site. Kept me up way past my bedtime.
Matt
Matt
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The early Abarth 500s
put out a wopping 32 HP! And that was up from stock! Think, it was a competitive race car, but must have been a class where Big Wheels and the like competed. Also, notice the 500 pictured above had a checkered roof? And the rear cover open both cooled the motor better and provided downforce.
Matt
Matt
Since some others are throwing their American Iron on the web, here is a few of mine under resto. A few befores. Paint, motor, tranny and suspension done, alls left is the interior. 1968 Ford Shelby GT 500KR 428 CJ.
And a few afters. We got rid of the stupid flairs. The previous owner had it set up for drag racing. Its gone back to basically stock except for a few internal mods in the motor. It should be a real thumper. Hope to have it on the road in a few months.
Well, i'm looking at heads now.
I found a set of really nice Aussie heads that are in Oregon, so I can save dealing with the customs garbage I assume I would have to deal with importing from Australia.
$300 bucks, checked for cracks, with factory valvetrain.
I'll see how it goes.
Oh yeah, i stopped by my local Mustang Restoration Shop (Yeah, its kinda nice to have one on the way home from work
) and got my floor for the drivers side, the inner fenderwell where the battery sits, a battery tray and 2 trunk drop off's for $95 bucks!
They are having a 10% off holiday special on all in stock parts, so i better hurry up and get my quarters before Dec. 31st. Even before discount, full skins, minus the rear roof sections, are only $69 dollars a side.
I'm starting the inner fender replacement tomorrow, so I should have a few more pics of the progress.
Oh, and we FINALLY got a plasma cutter, so i'll have to show it off while i'm cutting out my floor pan!
I found a set of really nice Aussie heads that are in Oregon, so I can save dealing with the customs garbage I assume I would have to deal with importing from Australia.
$300 bucks, checked for cracks, with factory valvetrain.
I'll see how it goes.
Oh yeah, i stopped by my local Mustang Restoration Shop (Yeah, its kinda nice to have one on the way home from work
) and got my floor for the drivers side, the inner fenderwell where the battery sits, a battery tray and 2 trunk drop off's for $95 bucks!They are having a 10% off holiday special on all in stock parts, so i better hurry up and get my quarters before Dec. 31st. Even before discount, full skins, minus the rear roof sections, are only $69 dollars a side.
I'm starting the inner fender replacement tomorrow, so I should have a few more pics of the progress.
Oh, and we FINALLY got a plasma cutter, so i'll have to show it off while i'm cutting out my floor pan!
Al Heads from Edelbrock?
I think Edelbrock or one of the other speed parts manufacturers may be making some cleveland heads now. I think I read about it in one of the Mustang mags... Sorry, don't have the reference. The Aussie heads are good, but some modern FEI designed Al heads would probably blow them away..... Anyway, its something to think about, and if they exist, will save you over 50 lbs on the front end....
Matt
Matt
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
I think Edelbrock or one of the other speed parts manufacturers may be making some cleveland heads now. I think I read about it in one of the Mustang mags... Sorry, don't have the reference. The Aussie heads are good, but some modern FEI designed Al heads would probably blow them away..... Anyway, its something to think about, and if they exist, will save you over 50 lbs on the front end....
Matt
Matt
Just by adding the Aussie heads, I bump CR, increase flow and increase gas mileage, all on top of the obvious HP jump.
I plan on just porting matching the aussies, maybey a bit of smoothing on the intake runners, and a valve job.
I might just finish buying parts for the bottom end before i do anything else. I found a set of nice KB pistons at Summit and I believe Ross makes a set too. Flat tops. I'm gonna reuse the factory rods and crank. For the 350~ horse motor I hope it will be, I dont think it should require much more.
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
just a good build away. You'll do fine, and if you decide to upgrade later, the aussie heads will move, so you won't have wasted any $.
Matt
Matt
I forgot I can get parts for free if my car goes to shows with a decal on the window because of this buisness thingy
Anyways, i think i'm gonna try a few things both my dad and my builder are suggesting. Couple new things neither of them have tried yet, so we will see how it all works out in the end!
Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
The thought of paying $1200 bucks for a set of heads for a street motor is what kinda throws me.
Just by adding the Aussie heads, I bump CR, increase flow and increase gas mileage, all on top of the obvious HP jump.
I plan on just porting matching the aussies, maybey a bit of smoothing on the intake runners, and a valve job.
I might just finish buying parts for the bottom end before i do anything else. I found a set of nice KB pistons at Summit and I believe Ross makes a set too. Flat tops. I'm gonna reuse the factory rods and crank. For the 350~ horse motor I hope it will be, I dont think it should require much more.
Just by adding the Aussie heads, I bump CR, increase flow and increase gas mileage, all on top of the obvious HP jump.
I plan on just porting matching the aussies, maybey a bit of smoothing on the intake runners, and a valve job.
I might just finish buying parts for the bottom end before i do anything else. I found a set of nice KB pistons at Summit and I believe Ross makes a set too. Flat tops. I'm gonna reuse the factory rods and crank. For the 350~ horse motor I hope it will be, I dont think it should require much more.
There's something to be said for...
Originally Posted by rjmann
BWHAHAHAHAhahahahahaaaaaaaaaa....$1200 for heads? I'd kill to pay that for a set of heads for my blown 993 motor. $1400 a piece. No, not $2800... $8400! Thats right there's 6 of them!
Matt
Isnt there a saying that goes along with Porsches?If you have to ask.....
Anywho, Id probably just buy one of those prebuilt motors off ebay and swap parts from the new block, but I want to have the satisfaction in knowing I built my own
Besides, who wants one of those pansy FI motors? Carbs are the only way to go
When I went from 289 wiht 4 barrel
Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
Besides, who wants one of those pansy FI motors? Carbs are the only way to go


Just a thought.
ps, it took two years of fiddling with the webber on my Fiat to get it just right....
Matt
hmm.... well, i decided agianst the aussie heads. i'm just gonna run closed chamber 4v's, much cheaper and easier to find.
motors going to the builder soon. gota decide on my bore size now. i dont need to go too much over stock, but, id like too drop some bigger pisons in. a 60 over se ot KB pistons is only 200 bucks, so thats probably the way i'll go.
and other comapnies do cams for the cleveland motors? i know theres a companie that did a custom cam for my dads newest 440, but it ran like 700 bucks, custom grind!
also, still looking for a set of hipo exhaust manifolds, ever se any companies that repop the boss 351 manifolds?
motors going to the builder soon. gota decide on my bore size now. i dont need to go too much over stock, but, id like too drop some bigger pisons in. a 60 over se ot KB pistons is only 200 bucks, so thats probably the way i'll go.
and other comapnies do cams for the cleveland motors? i know theres a companie that did a custom cam for my dads newest 440, but it ran like 700 bucks, custom grind!
also, still looking for a set of hipo exhaust manifolds, ever se any companies that repop the boss 351 manifolds?
Don't know about the Boss 351 headers...
Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
hmm.... well, i decided agianst the aussie heads. i'm just gonna run closed chamber 4v's, much cheaper and easier to find.
motors going to the builder soon. gota decide on my bore size now. i dont need to go too much over stock, but, id like too drop some bigger pisons in. a 60 over se ot KB pistons is only 200 bucks, so thats probably the way i'll go.
and other comapnies do cams for the cleveland motors? i know theres a companie that did a custom cam for my dads newest 440, but it ran like 700 bucks, custom grind!
also, still looking for a set of hipo exhaust manifolds, ever se any companies that repop the boss 351 manifolds?
motors going to the builder soon. gota decide on my bore size now. i dont need to go too much over stock, but, id like too drop some bigger pisons in. a 60 over se ot KB pistons is only 200 bucks, so thats probably the way i'll go.
and other comapnies do cams for the cleveland motors? i know theres a companie that did a custom cam for my dads newest 440, but it ran like 700 bucks, custom grind!
also, still looking for a set of hipo exhaust manifolds, ever se any companies that repop the boss 351 manifolds?
Also, check out somethings called "torque plates" for the 4V heads. They basically go on the head and have a tounge that decreases the size of the runners closer to the 2V head dimensions. I've seen them advertised, and have heard good things, but never used em as I run a Windsor.
Matt
Yay! The heads have arrived!!!!



The ports are HUGE! they are as big as the oval ports on a Big Chevy!!!!
The valves are comparable to a stock 383 head! no need to do work here, new valves and springs and im good to go!!!



The ports are HUGE! they are as big as the oval ports on a Big Chevy!!!!
The valves are comparable to a stock 383 head! no need to do work here, new valves and springs and im good to go!!!







