WHEW! The Motor Is Finally Apart!
just got all the metal stuff back from the dipper today.
one fender, a door and the decklid. all are great, one patch to make for the fender, but other than that, it all looks great.
not much progress on the car. got the entire dash out last week, all i have left to yank out of there is the heaterbox and the steering column and bracketry. then its time to sandblack and paint the interior. get all that out of the way. gotta get the glass out too.
were building another rotisserie for the mustang now, one of the Autorama chargers is up on a rotisserie now, its too easy to work on, i need one.
lemme upload a few pics of the dash removal. until then, a few of the show cars we have built in our shop, the same cars that sit alongside my mustang everyday.
also, if anyone likes what they see as far as restorations go, let me know, we will restore any classic. PM me and i can give you the company info.



we dont build cars to be trailered. we drive all of our cars.
the Green 69 Charger is a 26,xxx mile car. It is a Triple Green car from the factory. Original interior. 500hp 440 6 Pack, B&M HD727 3 speed, 8 3/4 rear end with 4.11 gears. It also has bolt in subframe ties, and is currently sitting on a set of drag slicks with skinny drag fronts all mounted on aluminum slotted wheels.
The Blue/Black 69 Roadrunner was originaly a Bronze metallic car with a white interior. It has a 440 6 Pack motor, with roughly 600hp. Its backed by a Hemi 4 speed with a T Handle hurst shifter. It also has a 8 3/4 rear end with 3.55 gears. Its currently sitting on brand new Torqe Thrust D's. oh yeah, the entire car is all original metal. every panel on that car was on that car when it left the factory.
And my other baby, my 73 VW Karmann Ghia.
All original metal. 256,000 miles. yes, 256K on that one. spent 90% of its life in california. Brand new motor/trans/clutch. Velour seat covering with new carpeting.
one fender, a door and the decklid. all are great, one patch to make for the fender, but other than that, it all looks great.
not much progress on the car. got the entire dash out last week, all i have left to yank out of there is the heaterbox and the steering column and bracketry. then its time to sandblack and paint the interior. get all that out of the way. gotta get the glass out too.
were building another rotisserie for the mustang now, one of the Autorama chargers is up on a rotisserie now, its too easy to work on, i need one.
lemme upload a few pics of the dash removal. until then, a few of the show cars we have built in our shop, the same cars that sit alongside my mustang everyday.
also, if anyone likes what they see as far as restorations go, let me know, we will restore any classic. PM me and i can give you the company info.




we dont build cars to be trailered. we drive all of our cars.
the Green 69 Charger is a 26,xxx mile car. It is a Triple Green car from the factory. Original interior. 500hp 440 6 Pack, B&M HD727 3 speed, 8 3/4 rear end with 4.11 gears. It also has bolt in subframe ties, and is currently sitting on a set of drag slicks with skinny drag fronts all mounted on aluminum slotted wheels.
The Blue/Black 69 Roadrunner was originaly a Bronze metallic car with a white interior. It has a 440 6 Pack motor, with roughly 600hp. Its backed by a Hemi 4 speed with a T Handle hurst shifter. It also has a 8 3/4 rear end with 3.55 gears. Its currently sitting on brand new Torqe Thrust D's. oh yeah, the entire car is all original metal. every panel on that car was on that car when it left the factory.
And my other baby, my 73 VW Karmann Ghia.
All original metal. 256,000 miles. yes, 256K on that one. spent 90% of its life in california. Brand new motor/trans/clutch. Velour seat covering with new carpeting.
Nice cars
Wow, neat cars. It's nice to see the old muscle. Glad to hear you're moving along on your car. I don't remember, did you find the original build sheet for your Mustang? Mine was gone, but buck tag was still screwed into the inner fender. It is the only piece that authenticates my 66 was an original GT. My dash wasn't too bad, rewired and put a new pad on. All the switches worked fine. Keep us posted.
Chuck
Chuck
Check your cowel vents too!
Don't know about your year, but on the 65/66 the cowel vents are BIG areas for rust, as the leaves prevent drainage of the cowel, and the vents just rust until it starts to get your feet wet. Seeing as your digging in so deep, make sure you check this area, it's a real ***** on Mustangs....
Other than that, you have a fun set of toys, and having a restoration shop in the family sure must make access to tools nice n easy!
Matt
Other than that, you have a fun set of toys, and having a restoration shop in the family sure must make access to tools nice n easy!
Matt
man, my cowls are so solid and rust free, id have a hard time finding rust to sandblast!
for some reason, i think the plastic grilles over the cowl vents on the later cars, like post-70, helped prevent the cowl rust.
my cowls, from the top all the way to the rockers are rust free, theres even some bare metal that only has light surface rust on it. i dont know how, but it managed to stay very clean over the years.
yeah, having tools is nice, its an upgrade from jackstands and a set of hand tools!
for some reason, i think the plastic grilles over the cowl vents on the later cars, like post-70, helped prevent the cowl rust.
my cowls, from the top all the way to the rockers are rust free, theres even some bare metal that only has light surface rust on it. i dont know how, but it managed to stay very clean over the years.
yeah, having tools is nice, its an upgrade from jackstands and a set of hand tools!
I was fortunate to have solid cowls. The big problem on my car was the inner and out wheelhouses on both sides, the trunk floor surround and, rear frame rails and driver quarter panel. Oh yeh, had to replace both doors completely rusted, bottom, inside and out, massive corrison. was fortunate to find replacement doors with no rust.
For mine, similare story.
Cowels were fine. But after stripping the car, all we saved was the hood, the trunk, and one door! Oh yeah, the cowel! New front fenders, two rear quarters (and a ***** to get good ones too). But now it's all pretty and fun!
Matt
Matt
well, i'm glad i have Mill Supply near me. cheap cost and the quality is amazing.
i really only need to finish with a inner fender where the battery way, thats kinda a given, lol, and the driver side floor pan. then i need to do 1/4s. the trunk is in, the wheelhouses are MINT, the taillight panel is all welded in.
i need one fender, one door and a hood. gotta keep a lookout, lol
i really only need to finish with a inner fender where the battery way, thats kinda a given, lol, and the driver side floor pan. then i need to do 1/4s. the trunk is in, the wheelhouses are MINT, the taillight panel is all welded in.
i need one fender, one door and a hood. gotta keep a lookout, lol
well, here was my job for today.
job 1 - learn how to use a rotisserie
job 2, remove front and rear supension
job 3, spin car really fast on rotisserie until boss comes in and gets angry
(its my dad, so its ok
)
job 1 - learn how to use a rotisserie
job 2, remove front and rear supension
job 3, spin car really fast on rotisserie until boss comes in and gets angry
(its my dad, so its ok
)
Looks great! I'd practically kill to have access to a resto-shop... I'm currently in the process of swapping a manual into an OE automatic '73 Volvo 1800ES. Waiting in the wings are two more '73 ES's in need of extensive body work (mmm.... rotisseri....
). This Winter's goal is learnign to weld.
And I may be picking up a 4th car... I need more room.... :impatient
). This Winter's goal is learnign to weld.
And I may be picking up a 4th car... I need more room.... :impatient
Yep, a 75 Fiat Spyder...
Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
hey, we pick up and deliver cars, need anything restored?


Matt
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
but my budget is about what the car is worth. What can you do for $1.38?
Matt
Matt

unless you bring it to us. i would probably pop the hood or open the doors for about $1.38
Wow!!
Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
probably hook the trailer to the truck and go about 2 feet down the driveway.

unless you bring it to us. i would probably pop the hood or open the doors for about $1.38

unless you bring it to us. i would probably pop the hood or open the doors for about $1.38
Matt
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
for the buget, I expected either opening the hood, or the doors, but both! I'm impressed!
Matt
Matt
The sad thing is
that the Fiat Spyder is the cheapest way to get those beautiful Pinin Farina lines from that era. When the car was running strong, it sure was a hoot! nice suspension, good weight balence, I went to a 2 litre block from the stock 1800 CC to get a bit more low torque. I think the lines are some of the best on a small open car. But now that it's slowly decaying in my driveway, I can't see spending the money to clean it up, but it's worth so little there's really no need to sell it.
A while ago I was thinking of putting an RX7 motor in it to make it a steath hot rod. But the Mustang can always drink money, and the mini is far behind in total budget, but picking up speed quickly. I keep thinking that I'll get the body help it needs, and do the rest my self (I'm no bodyman, just check my weight on my drivers licence).
Maybe I can put the extra SC I have onto it.... yeah that's the ticket!
Matt
A while ago I was thinking of putting an RX7 motor in it to make it a steath hot rod. But the Mustang can always drink money, and the mini is far behind in total budget, but picking up speed quickly. I keep thinking that I'll get the body help it needs, and do the rest my self (I'm no bodyman, just check my weight on my drivers licence).
Maybe I can put the extra SC I have onto it.... yeah that's the ticket!
Matt
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
that the Fiat Spyder is the cheapest way to get those beautiful Pinin Farina lines from that era. When the car was running strong, it sure was a hoot! nice suspension, good weight balence, I went to a 2 litre block from the stock 1800 CC to get a bit more low torque. I think the lines are some of the best on a small open car. But now that it's slowly decaying in my driveway, I can't see spending the money to clean it up, but it's worth so little there's really no need to sell it.
A while ago I was thinking of putting an RX7 motor in it to make it a steath hot rod. But the Mustang can always drink money, and the mini is far behind in total budget, but picking up speed quickly. I keep thinking that I'll get the body help it needs, and do the rest my self (I'm no bodyman, just check my weight on my drivers licence).
Maybe I can put the extra SC I have onto it.... yeah that's the ticket!
Matt
A while ago I was thinking of putting an RX7 motor in it to make it a steath hot rod. But the Mustang can always drink money, and the mini is far behind in total budget, but picking up speed quickly. I keep thinking that I'll get the body help it needs, and do the rest my self (I'm no bodyman, just check my weight on my drivers licence).
Maybe I can put the extra SC I have onto it.... yeah that's the ticket!
Matt
If you ever need the bodywork done, keep us in mind. we have one of the best body guys ive ever seen. he made just about 90% of the detail sheet metal for the 60 Impala that went out of here a few weeks ago!
you see the Blue roadrunner that we doid, that cars damn near perfect thanks to him!
Yeah, but that one has a top!
and a gutless motor (at least stock). I like the KG convertables though....
The FIAT was a bit gutless too, at 80 something horsepower. But with 4.37 differential from the factory, it could still smoke the skinny little tires it came with pretty much through first gear. And an overdrive 5 speed. Really a pleasure to drive. Other than power, it walked the walk. Under the skin, the Fiat motor was a good foundation. Cast block, but Al dual overhead cam solid lifter motor. Performace versions of the 1800 can spin over 12,000 revs with a good build, and put out 200+ HP. And that's with a stock block. Talk about scream! There were racing versions too called Arbaths or something. Unequal length A-arm front suspension. Some were even made with IRS. Most have a 4-link rear with panhard bar, so they did handle really well. Battery center mounted in the trunk. There was a turbo option for some years as well. Overall, it was made with minor changes from the very early 60s to the early 80s. A very successful car model.
There was a nice write up on the KGs in European Car, I think.... Great idea, didn't last long enough to get the motor it deserved, but a fun little car none the less.
Matt
The FIAT was a bit gutless too, at 80 something horsepower. But with 4.37 differential from the factory, it could still smoke the skinny little tires it came with pretty much through first gear. And an overdrive 5 speed. Really a pleasure to drive. Other than power, it walked the walk. Under the skin, the Fiat motor was a good foundation. Cast block, but Al dual overhead cam solid lifter motor. Performace versions of the 1800 can spin over 12,000 revs with a good build, and put out 200+ HP. And that's with a stock block. Talk about scream! There were racing versions too called Arbaths or something. Unequal length A-arm front suspension. Some were even made with IRS. Most have a 4-link rear with panhard bar, so they did handle really well. Battery center mounted in the trunk. There was a turbo option for some years as well. Overall, it was made with minor changes from the very early 60s to the early 80s. A very successful car model.
There was a nice write up on the KGs in European Car, I think.... Great idea, didn't last long enough to get the motor it deserved, but a fun little car none the less.
Matt
Even over the Ferraris?
Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
I'll take the Ghia lines of my car over Pinin Farina lines anyday! 

personally it would be a tough call, but I THINK I'd take a Ferrari Daytona over the KG, but I'd have to think about it for a while....

This is a list of most of the P cars from www.carsfromitaly.com
Alfa Romeo 6C2300 'Pescara' Coupe 1935
Lancia Astura 'Tipo Bocca' 1936
Lancia Berlinetta Aerodynamica (Aprilia based) 1937
Alfa Romeo 6C2300 1938
Alfa Romeo 6C2500 cabriolet (various) 1946 & 47
Cisitalia 202 1947
Alfa Romeo 6C2500SS coupe 1947
Alfa Romeo 6C2500 berlinas 1947
Alfa Romeo 6C2500 Limousine Ministeriale
Alfa Romeo 6C2500 Coupe 1948 & 50
Fiat 1500 Coupe 1950
Lancia Aurelia Coupe 1951
Alfa Romeo 1900 cabriolet 1951
Alfa Romeo 1900 Coupe 1953
Lancia PF2000 (Aurelia based) 1953
Maserati A6 GCS 1954
Ferrari 375MM Coupe 1954
Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider 1955
Ferrari 250GT Competizione 1955
Lancia Floride I & II 1955 & 57
Fiat Abarth 750 Record 1957
Lancia Flaminia 1957
Alfa Romeo Spider Super Sport 1959
Fiat 1200 Cabriolet 1959
Alfa Romeo 6C 3500 CM 1960
Ferrarina / ASA prototype 1961
Alfa Romeo Duetto 1966
Alfa Romeo 2000 Spider hardtop
Alfa Romeo 2600 Spider & Coupe 1963
Fiat 1500 & 1600S Spider 1963
Lancia Flavia Coupe 1962
Fiat 124 Spider 1966
Fiat Dino Spider 1966
Dino 206 GT Special 1965
Dino Berlinetta Speciale 1965
Alfa Romeo Giulia 1600 Sport 1965
Ferrari 365P 1966
Dino 206SP 1967
Dino Competizione 1967
Ferrari P5
Ferrari P6 1968
Ferrari 512S 1969
Abarth 2000 Prototipo 1969
PF Modulo 1970
Ferrari CR25
Alfa Romeo 33 Spider 1968 & 71
Alfa Romeo 33 Coupe 1969
Alfa Romeo Alfetta Spider 1972
Ferrari Daytona 1968
Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer 1971
Ferrari 308 1975
Ferrari 365 GT/4 1972
Ferrari 400 & 412 1976 & 85
Fiat 130 Coupe 1971
Fiat Maremma (130 estate)
Lancia Beta Montecarlo 1975
Lancia Gamma berlina & coupe 1976
Lancia 037 'Rally' 1982
Lancia Gamma Scala & Oligiata 1982
Alfa 33 1983
Fiat Ritmo 125TC Coupe 1983
Alfa Romeo 164 1988
HIT (Integrale based) 1988
Mythos (Testarossa based) 1989
Fiat Song 1996
Dardo (156 Spider) 1998
Rossa (550 Maranello based) 2000
Not too shaby a list....
Matt
Hmm... i do like 250's and 308's, Daytonas are nice too........ok, i like the Dino 206 too, lol
I think the Karmann looks better with a top than a convertable. With the top up at least, the Convertable looks rediculous, it ruins the lines.
oh, and is the the Abarth you were talking about?

the 500 Abarth
I think the Karmann looks better with a top than a convertable. With the top up at least, the Convertable looks rediculous, it ruins the lines.
oh, and is the the Abarth you were talking about?

the 500 Abarth
Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
oh, and is the the Abarth you were talking about?

the 500 Abarth
Matt







