And all the sheep went "Baaaa..."


"Free" healthcare is a misnomer... when nearly 50% of your income goes to taxes, it's not "free". Not only that, but when you have to wait 6 months for chemo- something is NOT working. Just another idiotic promise from the government to keep us complacent and ignorantly blissful.

Laws are only laws if you let them be. Ever heard of the Boston Tea Party? Ever heard of Rosa Parks? Now of course front plates, tint, and mods are in a whole different category, but what I'm trying to say is that just because something is a law or rule doesn't mean you HAVE to follow it.

By the way, I realize we're being spied on/tapped/watched... and it's NOT okay. See above for the solution.

 

Sounds more like something you should do in private --- and alone.

 

lol

 

I would say the problem is yours. Did you take action to resolve or pay the ticket a year ago Feb? The ball was in your court.

 

as a matter of fact i did take action, called the court to notify them that i had not recieved a ticket in the mail or bail amount in the mail to tell me where to go and who to show that i corrected the violation....when they looked up the ticket, they told me that citation had not been filed/is not on record, i asked ehr what should i do, she told me if i dont recieve anything in the mail, chances are it was just forgotten and to keep the ticket handy just in case....so i did, and to this date, i have no problem if the officer files the citation and says pay the correct bail amount (which should be $80 or so), but when they tell me that i have failed to appear in court and suspend my license and tell me the bail amount cannot be reversed all while admitting the officer made an error, that is when i get a little upset....so the ball hasnt been in my court since last year Pete Moss

 

Wow...



You need to call the court and talk to them (Or go in). You should be able to forgo paying the $800 if you simply pay the fine. Explain the situation to the judge/magistrate.

As long as you deal with it you shouldn't have to worry about any permanent driving repercussions.

 

Front license plate tickets are usually between $10 and 20 if you correct them FYI.

You said you hired a lawyer, he should know how to handle it?

 

Jiminni---Just so happens I have an 02 Z3 ( 15,000 miles, bought new) and an 07 Cooper S, all paid for. Wife drives a 07 Lexus GS350. Paid for. We drive them all over and have fun just like your father-in-law. There is more to life than a retirement account. However a retirement account is very important if you are going to drive that Z3 or Z4 around the country when you retire. I have a time share on Maui. Going to Italy this fall. Home is paid for. You assumed incorreectly, sir. Save and invest early.

 

Sounds like an incredibly boring existence.

I bet you've never chewed gum on the sidewalk, gotten caught in the xwalk when it turned red, or had anything to drink in public either.

It's great to say "If everything was legal you'd be fine" but some of us live in a state that has NO legal tint laws (You have to just roast to death when it's 120 degrees). A state that makes you drill 4 holes in your brand new bumper to stick an ugly *** license plate on because the cops are too lazy to look at the plate in the window. I'd be willing to be that just as many "legal" cars would have been harassed there too.

Saying "I never break laws" is just silly. There isn't a single person on this forum that's never broken a law and that's a fact. Go take a criminology class, sounds like that could add some excitement to your life.

 

I'd rather wait 6 months for chemo than die because I can't afford to pay 10% of my monthly income towards health insurance.

I agree with the rest of your post, people need to wake the F*** up and go do something about it. There's a reason most of France is the way it is. The government is afraid of it's citizens!

 

Good for you. My only suggestion would be to get anything in writing. These kind of things happen. Good luck.

 

not really hired, he's my uncle so its pretty much free lol...yeah 10-20 for the plates, then theres one for the tints, oh yeah and i did i mention i dont even own teh car anymore lollll, im thinkin thats hwy this blipped on the radar, new registration...but ya itll prolly get fixed just its really annoying you know, theyre ready man, they are set and ready to point the finger at anybody for any reason as long as some money comes there way...nooo f*n shame

 

thanks, yeah these things happen, but these days its about creating a situation to ***** ppl over rather than penalizing people for things they acutally did wrong....kinda like setting low speed limits on streets that yield a much faster traffic flow, then posting a cop on a blind corner to nail people time and time again, its like a speeding ticket assembly line....

 

See my response to Jiminni a few minutes ago. I am not bored by any means. We have all broken traffic laws in our life. When I was 16 or 17 we all drag raced, but way out in the country. We then found the drag strip in Kansas City and went there where it was supervised. I do drive the speed limit. I do stop at stop signs and stop lights. My orignal comment regarding the news story reference street racing wanted to make the point that there was more to the story than what I read. The police had a reason to be there and it sounds like they were very busy. My bet is that it involved much more than front license plates missing. BTW you can get the kit to mount your front license plate without drilling holes in the front bumper. Is your license plate in the window illuminated? Does the window have a limo tint?

 

lolllllllll

 

just happened upon this thread and have to say wow. i've felt for the 2 years i've lived in socal- that this is a total police state.

i lived most of my life in texas. and always envisioned california as a liberal state. i never really thought of texas as a bad place, matter of fact i love it.

but, when i met my girlfriend and started commuting out here and eventually moved her i soon realized that all this place is about is control. and i soon realized that in comparison- a state like texas is much more liberal in personal freedoms. as much as many may hate to admit it.

no cuss zones, no smoking outside in certain cities, boutique gas. and not to mention, despite it's "natural beauty" probably the filthiest f'in place i've ever been and that includes any city in the world i've been to including tokyo. this place is a complete lie.

i could go on and on about all this. it's california that is responsible for so many laws in this country that are complete BS. and mostly , many of the laws are strictly for marketing and money making purposes. especially the "environmentally conscious" BS. don't get me wrong- the environment is important but, you have to be blind to see that for the most part in california's eyes- it really isn't about the environment is it? it's a marketing opportunity to cash in on the "green scheme". forced recycling yet, the prices on products go higher. shouldn't it be the opposite? in other words- cali works under the "guise" of being so advanced. but, of course the citizens have no choice and we are the ones who foot the bill. it's all about the control...

ok that's kind of off topic but, not really. i just wanted to vent a little about the state and the total contradiction it is. the original topic in the thread is just another example of how the **** state works, how the priorities are so screwed and how our tax dollars are put to use.

 

i couldn't agree with you more, are people really so dumb to think that the few million smokers and hte tiny cigarettes they smoke really harm the environment? people are yelling save the rainforest with their arms out the windows of their cars and suv's....which the two (cars/suv) arent quite so bad considering the humungous oil tankers that transport all those inexpensive goodies from overseas that people love so much, cuz they dont want to pay a little more for something made in teh usa....or finding out certain little plastics or ******** have carcinogens in them and blah blha blah...theyre just ways to scare people into thinking they cna make a differnce if they conform...the truth is that there is not avoiding it, we are going to pollute, we need transportation, we need to use boats and planes and diesel trucks and all that, we need to use huge machines that consume lots of oil to cut down trees in the rainforest to make paper so that we can write checks to pay the very people that are telling us we are being harmful to the environemnt.

 

the other fact that is failed to be mentioned is that 90% of the toxic emssions a vehicle will emit are in the manufacturing of the vehicle. that means that the hybrid car you see rolling down the street created the same amount of toxins in the air as the 67 corvette.

the thing is now, since al gore's movie (and don't get me wrong and twist my words), it's become much more MARKETABLE. so the manufacturers are starting to cash in. look at all the green products that line the shelves. look at the ads and how "responsibly" green we all are now. it's sickening. and of course- green comes at a cost to the consumer. it makes you think about how real it all is or, assuming it is real how disgusting it is to think that noone cared until they figured out a way to make a buck.

as far as smoking, i'm a smoker and i believe that if you do not want smoke around you fine. i wouldn't either if i was a non smoker and am always considerate of other peoples wishes. but, to tell me i can't smoke outdoors is crazy.

i don't know- i'm ranting. on one hand i worry about this stuff. on the other hand i wonder how much of it is all about the $$$ and california leads the pack in finding new ways to screw us.

why do you think natural energy hasn't caught on? because they haven't figured a way to charge you for it YET! once they do we'll all be in solar powered homes. then there'll be a new crisis...

 

Can we please stick to the subject. Thanks

 

Have a source for this?

 

it's all related isn't it? it's turned into a california rant. but, whatever i'm done and feel better .

 

Sounds like it's due time for a new NAM FORUM category:
"DRIVERS OF STOCK MINI'S WHO LEAD SANITIZED,FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE LIVES"
SUB CATEGORY:"BEYOND REPROACH and THE EARLY RETIRED"
OOOHHH,YYYHHHAAAHHH!!!
-now I'm aroused.
HOW VANILLA!

 

yes let me see if i can dig it out and i'll pm it to you. but, i don't want to veer anymore off topic. others seem to be getting upset- which is cool.

but, this debate has been raging for years since the original "carbon penalties" were being proposed years ago. at the time i drove a 70 MG midget and the MG club was in an uproar over it and we were all sent the fact sheets with which to contact our state representatives.

besides, what would be considered different in the manufacturing process of say a PT cruiser and a prius? what makes the prius' building specs so special? they both have to be built and the manufacturing of any vehicle is the biggest polluting factor. the pollutants emitted during a cars driving lifetime are nothing in comparison to the pollutants created to build it.

 

exactly, its just being used to market, there are a lot of thiings like that...theyre bs little endorsments that play with peoples heads, i used to be a smoker, not anymore, but i never complain, yeah it gets annoying when im in a room full of them (in which case ill just suck it up or walk away),

but u know what, the whole city sits under a layer of smog that you breathe in....the health of the people as a whole is reduced, that little ciggarette isnt gonna affeect you any more or less, its simply for there comfort cuz they dont like teh smell .yes i realize three are documents that prove second hand smoke kills, but so does smog, you just can't see it or taste it but it is killing you, you are dying at a faster rate if you live in a major city, you make that choice by living there...

 

So the logic is, then, let's do nothing? Actually, it appears that even small reductions in the output of pollutants can have large, long-term positive impact. The logic of "other things pollute, so it's okay to do nothing" is ridiculous.