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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 06:25 AM
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R56 Sat nav firmware upgrade?

Hi

I purchased a 2007 used Cooper S auto with MINI sat nav built in. The DVD map provided was 2007.

I am thinking of buying the new 2009 DVD maps. However I do have a couple of questions:

1) Do I need to update the firmware in the sat nav in order to use the 2009 maps?
2) I found this link: http://www.xoutpost.com which provides the firmware. Is this applicable to the R56 sat nav?

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Does your voice activation work? My 2007 MCS needed a software update from the dealer to fix voice activation. It was available in late 2007, IIRC. Otherwise, I haven't heard of any other updates.

I'm still using the 2007 DVD. If the roads you navigate haven't changed much, you may not need to spend the $$.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mini_mee
2) I found this link: http://www.xoutpost.com which provides the firmware. Is this applicable to the R56 sat nav?
No, that firmware is for the 1st gen (R50/R52/R53). R56 firmware must be updated by a dealer. You won't need to update it for reading a 2009 disc.

I suggest that you simply use the 2007 disc and see how well it works for the areas you travel in. Even if your local roads have changed, Navteq is slow to update their data (many years behind in some areas) and you might not gain benefit from a newer disc. You can always get a newer disc whenever you decide to.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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According to the Navteq website, the newest MINI disc is 2009.1 released in March 2008.

That website does not correctly identify the Professional disc need for a 2007 hardtop. It lists the High version which is used by the 2007 convertible. They've been told of this error, but haven't fixed it yet.

I have a big problem spending $200 for a disc containing 99% of the same data as my older disc, plus a small amout of updated material. If they charged a reasonable amout, say $50 or less, I think a lot more people would update every year or two.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Witch is the last firmware version?
How can I check the version installed on my navi (JCW Factory)?

Tnx
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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I'm 99 percent sure that there have been no significant changes to the Nav firmware.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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You can see many different version numbers and other diagnostics on a hidden OSD screen (no idea if this works on cars past the 07 model year).

Home screen
Hold joystick down for 15 seconds
Turn 3 clicks right
Turn 3 clicks left
Turn 1 click right
Turn 1 click left
Turn 1 click right
Press joystick once

My car was recently in for a couple warranty issues. They must have updated the Nav software from the original (Aug 07 build) version. Only reason I noticed is the HD radio display is slightly different. The Nav itself and poor POI search function is still just like it was prior to the change.

I've come across many roads that are displayed on the Nav display, but when traveling a route on them it says they are "not digitized" and it can't provide directions. Even though it displays the blue route line on these non-digitized roads. It would be nice if Navteq had a map display on their site which let you zoom into areas to check the detail. Similar to what Garmin has on their site.
 

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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Minidrivr
You can see many different version numbers and other diagnostics on a hidden OSD screen (no idea if this works on cars past the 07 model year).

Home screen
Hold joystick down for 15 seconds
Turn 3 clicks right
Turn 3 clicks left
Turn 1 click right
Turn 1 click left
Turn 1 click right
Press joystick once

..
Here we go
just check mine

Witch is the last version number?

Same pics from my JCW (11/2008 - EU Version)


 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 06:58 AM
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Some of that is exactly the same as mine. Some of it is different. One thing I noticed is yours displays TMC on the lower bar. I'm assuming that is the Traffic function. Mine shows TI there.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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I have an `07 as well, I'll take a look at lunch and let you know what I see.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Yes, TMC is EU and TI the USA
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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I took a bunch of pictures too, let me know if you want to see them. My system version says CP1_b7802_r56.

What I find curious is that there's a "telephone" option but mine doesn't have the telephone hookup. Also do you have Satellite radio? I'm assuming that's what the little antenna looking icon is next to your clock?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Minidrivr
You can see many different version numbers and other diagnostics on a hidden OSD screen (no idea if this works on cars past the 07 model year).

Home screen
Hold joystick down for 15 seconds
Turn 3 clicks right
Turn 3 clicks left
Turn 1 click right
Turn 1 click left
Turn 1 click right
Press joystick once
I couldn't get this to work on my 2009 R57 with Navi option. Anyone know where to find the procedure to get to the hidden OSD for the 2009 models?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mordecai
Also do you have Satellite radio? I'm assuming that's what the little antenna looking icon is next to your clock?
On mine, that's the icon when a phone is linked through bluetooth.

Originally Posted by zanary
I couldn't get this to work on my 2009 R57 with Navi option. Anyone know where to find the procedure to get to the hidden OSD for the 2009 models?
Make sure you go 15 seconds. 14 and it doesn't work. Also I seem to have more luck when I had the home screen selection on Setup instead of the top one, Navigation.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by zanary
I couldn't get this to work on my 2009 R57 with Navi option. Anyone know where to find the procedure to get to the hidden OSD for the 2009 models?
My guess is its the same its just a pain to get to. No joke, took me like 10 tries. I found it's best if you go to the home screen and bump it down to "setup" to start, seemed to work best for me.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Minidrivr
On mine, that's the icon when a phone is linked through bluetooth.
Ahh that stinks, I wanted that feature and they said they couldn't install it aftermarket.
 
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