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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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Speaker Brand Recommendations?

No Focals. I'm looking for a 3 way COMPONENT set...

I've already searched JBL, Infinity, Rockford Fosgate, and a few others, and no one seems to make a 3 way set. Basically, I want to replace all 3 speakers on each side in the front.
 

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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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rainbow =)

http://car.rainbow-audio.de/products...n=1&art=231779
 

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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Wonder how much they are.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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more than I can afford.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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any figures? haha
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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call Elemental.....they're clearing out DLS inventory and making it special order only. www.edesignaudio.com - they make a few nice three way sets.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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jl made some. maybe you could get a used set?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tbonecopper
No Focals. I'm looking for a 3 way set...

I've already searched JBL, Infinity, Rockford Fosgate, and a few others, and no one seems to make a 3 way set. Basically, I want to replace all 3 speakers on each side in the front.
Why are you looking for 3 way? I think that is the wrong choice. The problem is that both the HIFI and the standard audio systems have crossovers already in place. I'm told that if you add more crossovers, you will get strange results. The crossover frequency will not be what your crossovers are set at. It will be whatever the combination of the OEM and yours produce.

IMO, you want component systems, when you can get them. I'm using 3 way Infinity Kappa 693.7i in the rear, but I think I'm going to have to disconnect the dual tweeters because they have an internal crossover. I'll probably use a separate tweeter instead.

For the front I'm using the woofer from Infinity Kappa 60.7cs 6-1/2" component speakers for the larger door speaker. It fits OK, but some drilling required. Oh, and I'm leaving in place a plastic protector for the rubber around the cone. Otherwise, foam on the door panel will come into contact with it.

I was going to use Infinity Kappa 32.7cf 3-1/2" 2-way car speakers for the small door speakers, but they are too small. I've ordered 4". I will not connect the tweeter on these.

These Kappas all come with external crossovers, which I'm not installing.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Robin, i'm taking the existing speakers and cross overs out, adding an amp, new wiring, speakers, and the works

i edited the OP, adding component set. since that's what i'm looking for... that's a my bad on my part :-p

btw. I've been told, by a fairly good source, that the stock crossovers suck, lol. to be blunt.

elemental design is UNGODLY expensive. for about 100 bucks more than they want for their cheapest 3 way component set, I can get focals.

I'm checking JL audio now
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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DLS > Focal. You get what you pay for. Elemental is know for being affordable gear...they sell DLS, a super-premium brand and they're on sale now. So, you might be able to get DLS cheaper than Focal Don't listen to me though....nobody ever does.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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The cheapest set was 450 for a 3 way component set. Should I call them tomorrow?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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kook: the set you are referencing is at this link... http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_c...hp?comp_id=121

a quick froogle search reveals about 338 for a set. not bad at all
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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The cheapest set was 450 for a 3 way component set. Should I call them tomorrow?
yes, I think so - they just removed them from the site due to price gouging by dealers. they will only sell over the phone now and they won't post the price
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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oh that price was from their website. maybe I'm looking at the wrong product? here's the links to what I was looking at.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/index.php?cPath=1_108
 
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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ok....again, call them....DLS is on sale...phone only
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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pioneer premier PRS series is very good. i recently bought a set and very suprised with build quality and sound. really good for the money. if you want to modify, you can upgrade the passive crossover's capacitor with m caps product. only 1 pair needed and not pricey. sounds very much better.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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The 4" Infinity Kappas arrived yesterday and they fit well. I finished the passenger side and it sounds great. I'll tackle the driver side door on Friday. Gotta photograph Vincente Fox today at a friend's house.

Even though the entire system is not in, I think I can highly recommend the Infinity Kappas. I tested them with the balance all the way to the right. They are so much clearer and smoother than the stock speakers. I'm used to a $10,000 home system and figured I'd never be completely happy with any car system, but I am surprised at how well the Kappas sound.

Infinity Kappa 693.7i
in the rear, but don't connect the built-in tweeters because they have an internal crossover.
Infinity Kappa 60.7cs 6-1/2" component speaker system for the larger speaker in the door. Put the plastic packing ring (covers the rubber around the cone) back on the speaker after mounting it. This makes a seal with the foam on the grille and keeps the rubber from being crushed by the foam. I used the separate tweeters with the 6x9's, and left the stock tweeters in the A pillars.
Infinity Kappa 42.7i for the small location in the door. It fits well, with one hole needing to be drilled. I put polyfill behind it.

I found the best prices at Amazon (they actually come from Globazar). The above speakers would cost a little over $300 shipped.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Robin Casady
The 4" Infinity Kappas arrived yesterday and they fit well. I finished the passenger side and it sounds great. I'll tackle the driver side door on Friday. Gotta photograph Vincente Fox today at a friend's house.

Even though the entire system is not in, I think I can highly recommend the Infinity Kappas. I tested them with the balance all the way to the right. They are so much clearer and smoother than the stock speakers. I'm used to a $10,000 home system and figured I'd never be completely happy with any car system, but I am surprised at how well the Kappas sound.

Infinity Kappa 693.7i
in the rear, but don't connect the built-in tweeters because they have an internal crossover.
Infinity Kappa 60.7cs 6-1/2" component speaker system for the larger speaker in the door. Put the plastic packing ring (covers the rubber around the cone) back on the speaker after mounting it. This makes a seal with the foam on the grille and keeps the rubber from being crushed by the foam. I used the separate tweeters with the 6x9's, and left the stock tweeters in the A pillars.
Infinity Kappa 42.7i for the small location in the door. It fits well, with one hole needing to be drilled. I put polyfill behind it.

I found the best prices at Amazon (they actually come from Globazar). The above speakers would cost a little over $300 shipped.
Not quite sure i understand what you've installed. Where did you put the tweeter from the 60.7 component system? By adding the 42.7i aren't you adding a second set of full-range playing speakers to the front? What is the advantage of the 2nd smaller set? Thanks.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Not quite sure i understand what you've installed. Where did you put the tweeter from the 60.7 component system?
I mounted the component tweeters on the surface between these 6x9's.



By adding the 42.7i aren't you adding a second set of full-range playing speakers to the front? What is the advantage of the 2nd smaller set? Thanks.
Each door has two speakers. A 5.25" and a 3.5" speaker. The 5.25" is used for bass. The 3.5" seems to be used for midrange or higher. This is how the MINI HIFI crossovers seem to be set up.

I replaced the 5.25" with Infinity Kappa 60.7cs 6-1/2" and the 3.5" with Infinity Kappa 42.7i 4". I did not connect the tweeter in the 42.7i. In spite of being nominally larger sizes, they fit well. I tried Kappa 3.5" in the 3.5" space and they were very much too small.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Thanks for the explanation and the photo. Wow you have a big kleenex dispenser to the left of the 6x9s... (i kid) (but really still don't know what that is )
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Thanks for the explanation and the photo. Wow you have a big kleenex dispenser to the left of the 6x9s... (i kid) (but really still don't know what that is )
It is all explained here:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=117453
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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wow robin.. that looks good. you forgave your back seat tho?
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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wow robin.. that looks good. you forgave your back seat tho?
The sins of the rear seat were unforgivable. I excommunicated it.

Got the Kappas installed in the driver's door, but forgot to take photos. Sorry. The mirror controller was a pain, but we figured out how to do it, eventually.

I'm really happy with the Infinity Kappas. They are fairly bright speakers (I'm used to that with my NHTs). I think that brightness helps them cut through the road noise.
 
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