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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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In the e30 M3 circles there is available a modified upper spring retainer for the front suspension which lowered the front additionally by 10mm.

I'm wondering if such a product exists for the MCS and whether anyone would be willing to design one?

I ask because most of the lowering spring kits lower the rear more than the front getting rid of the awesome rake the car has in stock form.

Any ideas?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Well, hmmmm....that's an interesting idea. So what does it do, cause the spring to perch tighter, therefore lowering the car more?

My KN evaluation springs gave a slight rake bias to the rear, but KN is redoing them so as to not drop the rear as much. This should be done very soon and I'll post an update thread about the KWs. I personally like the KW over the H&R as the KW give a lower drop. But neither have a decidedly rear rake look to them.

You may want to look into coilovers if you are that specific about the rake angle of your ride.

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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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DaveBret,
any noticeable rough ride quality with the lowering? I used to have a GT Mustang convertible and although I enjoyed the handling...I live surrounded by brick streets and appreciate the "smoother" ride of the S with the 16's.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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in order to lower the car, you need to lower the lower spring retainer, shorten the bearing plate to strut tower distance, or change springs or coilovers. The stock coilovers don't look like you can change the lower spring retainer.

One might be able to change the upper bearing plate to a shorter one, but I haven't seen one out there. I'll consider making one if anyone is interested; probably could get 3/4" lower without too much trouble.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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>>in order to lower the car, you need to lower the lower spring retainer, shorten the bearing plate to strut tower distance, or change springs or coilovers. The stock coilovers don't look like you can change the lower spring retainer.
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>>One might be able to change the upper bearing plate to a shorter one, but I haven't seen one out there. I'll consider making one if anyone is interested; probably could get 3/4" lower without too much trouble.
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Very interesting thought there. But I have to wonder how much of a market there would be for such a doo dad. I'd have to say that a good 95% of the folk that want an aggressive stance without switching to aftermarket coilovers would be satisfied by the KWs. The final drop on them should be ~1" for the front and about 1.2-1.3" for the rear. I don't think you'd want to go much lower in the front, at least not on stock struts. At this height I'm scraping going into steep parking lots or whatnot. Mind you it's very minimal scraping and can be avoided 99% of the time if I just go slowly over the deep spot, or angle in. So much lower and it wouldn't be readily streetable.

Oh, and it's not too rough a ride. I do have my rear sway on the super tight setting and that makes for some stiffness though. The springs allow for travel in the stock struts still. The only time I've hit the bumpstops was when I went over a sleeping policeman, aka speedbump, a weeeee bit too fast. But otherwise it's great. Now this will not be a Buick mind you. Rough roads will show. As will lumps/drops in the pavement...but no more so than any other rigid, lowered car I've ever been in. Honestly, once I dropped the runflats for real tires the nasty jarring action went away. Now it's just stiff, not jarring. The concrete sidewalls of the runflats was just too much with the stiff rear sway and springs.

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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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>>in order to lower the car, you need to lower the lower spring retainer, shorten the bearing plate to strut tower distance, or change springs or coilovers. The stock coilovers don't look like you can change the lower spring retainer.
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>>One might be able to change the upper bearing plate to a shorter one, but I haven't seen one out there. I'll consider making one if anyone is interested; probably could get 3/4" lower without too much trouble.
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Well, add me to the list then, I'm definitely interested. I'm thinking of a 1/2" - 3/4", either would be awesome.


 
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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Well the MCS is lowered now, and this is officially now an issue.

The front NEEDS to go down another 5-10mm.

So... who wants to undertake this cool little project?

Cheers,
Kev
 
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