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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tsukiji
No, not in this lifetime anyway.
True Chows our definition of slow shutter speeds is upwards of 2-3 minutes I don't care who you are you can't do that handheld and get a clear image. It will never be oboslete however when and how its used will change. No IS and I generally won't seek extra stabilization (enviroment or tripod) until I'm past the 1 1/3 shutter speed. As Speednut pointed out before it also forces you to slow think and frame. For that reason tripods are likely to never be obsolete, but maybe someday they'll be considered "old school"
 
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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[URL="http://cinemasupplies.stores.yahoo.net/succupmoun.html"]I've purchased several items there in the past & highly recommend them. I love DIY as much as the next guy, but you can never go wrong with buying pro grip gear—it becomes part of your permanent collection. The 'gripper' vacuum cup w/3-D head is a great piece to start & you can build from there.
Hey Tsukiji, care to post a quick snapshot of one of your rig setups? I'm anxious to try out my new gripper vacuum cup, but would really like to see some other ideas.

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...maybe someday they'll be considered "old school"
That's me!
 
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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The recent posts in this thread have me wanting to get my rigs out again sometime soon.

And 2nd'ing Filmtools as a good source for parts (it's just $, but good stuff)
 
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Aww, come on Chows, you of all people know there is no such thing as a free lunch and quality photography equipment isn't cheap. (which lenses was it that you were looking at again; why not just get the kit lens?) $1k is also too high, a quality one with head can be had for < $500, especially if you skip CF.
I checked out some Bogens ... Looks like $500 for a tripod and head ... I'll put that on the ...

When I get a long telephoto list

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True Chows our definition of slow shutter speeds is upwards of 2-3 minutes
Whoa. I was talking about 1/15 and 1/30 second, not minutes. I've seen some excellent pics on the Canon board of very slow shutterspeed using IS. I was think, for example the Canon 70 -200 that tsukiji recommended several times now has IS but it doubles the price
 
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by speednut
Hey Tsukiji, care to post a quick snapshot of one of your rig setups? I'm anxious to try out my new gripper vacuum cup, but would really like to see some other ideas.
I'm sorry to say that I haven't done anything interesting lately, but I'm working on something for this month's contest. I'll be using a little more than the basic set-up. If it turns out well I'll probably keep it close to my vest jk

The Gripper sticks well to many locations on a MINI, both inside and out, just be VERY careful & check the suction often.

My calendar shot used a basic gripper-type mount, just a Bogen 3-D head attached to a 6" Wood's Powr-Grip vacuum cup. I attached it behind the gas cap & tethered everything to the spoiler, thus ensuring maximum paint damage if it did come loose. I ran a wired remote to the cabin & began to slowly chase another MINI. Remember: you only need to capture the illusion of speed to create an awesome motion shot.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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And yes Chowsie I know "too dark..."
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Motor, check out this thread, maybe you can get idea on night shots. Some really impressive stuff here.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=205834
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Motor, check out this thread, maybe you can get idea on night shots. Some really impressive stuff here.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=205834
I see they took the easy way out and skipped over all the MINIs

Good stuff for some ideas though
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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And I located my Canon Software so I can shoot RAW agian.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Any comments on the photos?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Any comments on the photos?
The speedo is a really sweet exposure, but the camera shake blows it. The reflection should be scrimmed.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Motor, check out this thread, maybe you can get idea on night shots. Some really impressive stuff here.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=205834


Well spent a few hours last ngiht browsing photo.net reading critiques of other photos and formulating my own opinions and picking apart composition, so tonight I figured I'd check out the board Chowsie linked to. He's offically been holding out on us!!!!!!! There is an ENTIRE FORUM dedicated to motorsport photography, just starting to browse it now, but thought I'd mention it is worth diggin around on that site. Hopefully I'll start to pick apart my photos before I press the shutter. I'd like to think I'm improving my composition and expanding my technique bag of tools (more tools you know how to use the better right?).

I am still looking for feedback opinions rescourses comments tips tricks advice etc. I think I've been able to make some headway in the quality of the photos even though many of the things covered here are even just simple back to basics techniques witha few extras thrown in. NO opinion is insignificant, just please make it constructive.

It'll probably be time to condense this into a post for the sticky at the top of the forum and start a new thread around New Years, but until then lets try out some new stuff and have fun shooting!

EDIT: and looking around I think I just got some real serious ideas, just may have a serious weekend project to tend to......
 
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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It'd be nice to consistantly shoot at this level
 
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Motor On
Much of that is photchopped

He's got the backgrounds to do go work

and ... looks like a lot of HDRs in there.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Much of that is photchopped

He's got the backgrounds to do go work

and ... looks like a lot of HDRs in there.
The PS is lmited to eliminating reletions, balancing colors, and the layers technique Speednut used in last months photo contest. I've been vrought up to speed on some of the other techniques used and after I try them out and get some results and a better understanding I'l be sharing them, but its going to take a little project this weekend before I've got that done.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Much of that is photchopped
... looks like a lot of HDRs in there.
...and that's bad?

Kid's with Civics & Subies 'photochop'
the Civilized World does Post Processing
 
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Motor On
I figured I'd check out the board Chowsie linked to. He's offically been holding out on us!!!!!!! There is an ENTIRE FORUM dedicated to motorsport photography,
Dude ... that site is HUGE. There post counts are unbelievable. They get more posts in ONE Hour than name gets in a Day.

Get a login ... put some pics up. They are pretty nice over there and will just tell you the truth.

There are so many forums there I gave up trying to read 95% of them!

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The PS is lmited to eliminating reletions, balancing colors, and the layers technique Speednut used in last months photo contest.
PS? Check out HDR. They do some awesome stuff. Comes in CS2 or its like $100 to get the program that does it. Getting those awesome colors takes some work.

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...and that's bad?
Not bad at all ... its just the dark room. I'm just saying its not the original photo but lots of work after
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 02:25 AM
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 02:33 AM
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Another Pro's site worth checking out http://www.eastonchang.com/
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Playing catch up here...
Did you remix this one as I seem to remember it looking differently before (was much darker too). I like the direction you went with in post, but the license plate looks odd doubled. Artifact from adding lens flare in PS? The lines take your eyes in various directions, nice!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tsukiji
Kid's with Civics & Subies 'photochop'
the Civilized World does Post Processing
Ya hear that Kurt, we're "post-processing", not chompin'!

Thanks for the various links Chows and Motor On, I feel small now. So much more to learn!!! And you're not kidding that HDR is a lot to learn as I'm still struggling with it. For example, here was my first attempt with a "halo" effect around the car because of the HDR settings I used (no preview to warn me of this).


While I liked some aspects of the photo, the "halo" was driving me nuts and redid the whole time consuming HDR conversion again. I tried more conservative settings, but the trees on the mountain peaks still got buggered up. I wish I could find a better explaination of the PS HDR conversion settings when down converting to 8 bit color space. The photo below at least looks fairly realistic IMHO...
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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#1: layer -> photo filter -> red/pink applied in post? Not realistic looking, but you did it correctly and it's cool effect nonetheless that I see in other people's photos.

#2: Really like the lines on this photo; certainly draws you into the shop. I'm also a sucker for sepia tones. Amount of camera tilt is good too and doesn't feel overdone. My favorite photo that you've posted recently.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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It's been raining a lot here and my MCS is filthy, but at least there isn't freezing white stuff everywhere here so I'll keep my complaining to a minimum. While getting my bag out of the boot this morning at work, I noticed this oil & rain water puddle below my exhaust pipes. Thought it looked interesting with the low morning sun attempting to peer through the clouds.

As a data point for Chows regarding image stabilization, lens was at a 35mm equiv of 112mm for a 1/4 sec f/8 photo. I took 8 photos with my hand against the bumper to steady myself. All photos looked fine on the camera review screen, but in PS bridge review, 2 were a bit blurry (okay for web posting resize, but not for printing), 4 were marginal, and 2 were tack sharp. If you're going to be lazy like me and not use a tripod, do yourself a favor and take extra shots to ensure you get at least one sharp one.

 
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