Seeking advice, tips, Techniques and tricks
11 I like toned done. The monochramitic effect was great. I think it was the best pic of the bunch. I haven't seen the full color version yet but I might bet this version might be better from an artistic point of view. Got to see the color version
As to the new ones
1. ??? what is it
2. Good rule of thirds. Interesting but not "great" But a good pic
3. Excellent. I wish the left part was in focus, maybe stop down more but an excellent use of reflections and Good Color! Its original.
4. OK
5. Overdone ... to many shots like that. Not original
6. Excellent
7. OK .. . focus
8. Overdone shot but the bit of color makes ALL the difference. NOW its original! Excellent
You do much better when you have original ideas/context!!!
Quick response wow,
#1 is the rear passenger quarter panel, taken simply for the purpose of showing how clean the car was, probably not for the photo forum.
#3 was taken to show someone in another thread, you can recover from vandalism, I got keyed from the gas cap on forward, this was to show a little elbow grease can fix things, the reflection looked nice so I thought I'd post here.
#4-#6 werecause i had a ladder handy, thoguht I might try a different angle.
#7 focus is straight down the MINI badge, shallow depth of field shots til I clean off the image sensor.
#8 was only touched a little bit, I loved the contrast of addign the leaf, I've got a few other simliar shots, but that seemed to be best of the bunch.
Thanks for the responses I'll try some new things next time I head out. Anyone else want to offer some input?
#1 is the rear passenger quarter panel, taken simply for the purpose of showing how clean the car was, probably not for the photo forum.
#3 was taken to show someone in another thread, you can recover from vandalism, I got keyed from the gas cap on forward, this was to show a little elbow grease can fix things, the reflection looked nice so I thought I'd post here.
#4-#6 werecause i had a ladder handy, thoguht I might try a different angle.
#7 focus is straight down the MINI badge, shallow depth of field shots til I clean off the image sensor.
#8 was only touched a little bit, I loved the contrast of addign the leaf, I've got a few other simliar shots, but that seemed to be best of the bunch.
Thanks for the responses I'll try some new things next time I head out. Anyone else want to offer some input?
Ok there's a hundred views since post #26 and only Chowsie has somethign to say??? Feel free to comment on any of them, my goal is to make each photoshoot a learning experiance and that each shoot yeild a few postable photos to share with the gorup. Experimentaion and progess is a way to make photography fun for me by constantly provinding a new challenge.
Here is the Full color version of a previously posted photo I've decided which one I plan to downsize and enter into this months contest (and this ain't it).
Here is the Full color version of a previously posted photo I've decided which one I plan to downsize and enter into this months contest (and this ain't it).
Excellent composition. I love the windy road. Makes your eyes follow forward ... right on the money.
Also like the red tailight for contrast. Highlight in the roof is very cool.
The only nitpick thing is the sky. I just hate white skys. Looks like fog in the distance hanging low and that is cool, Its must my personal opinion that white skies are blah.
But basically a VERY GOOD PIC
Also like the red tailight for contrast. Highlight in the roof is very cool.
The only nitpick thing is the sky. I just hate white skys. Looks like fog in the distance hanging low and that is cool, Its must my personal opinion that white skies are blah.
But basically a VERY GOOD PIC
Excellent composition. I love the windy road. Makes your eyes follow forward ... right on the money.
Also like the red tailight for contrast. Highlight in the roof is very cool.
The only nitpick thing is the sky. I just hate white skys. Looks like fog in the distance hanging low and that is cool, Its must my personal opinion that white skies are blah.
But basically a VERY GOOD PIC
Also like the red tailight for contrast. Highlight in the roof is very cool.
The only nitpick thing is the sky. I just hate white skys. Looks like fog in the distance hanging low and that is cool, Its must my personal opinion that white skies are blah.
But basically a VERY GOOD PIC
Yo Motor ...
I like your picture so much here I had to go try your idea. For some reason, I got mostly yellow leaves and I think the reds are a bit more comfortable.
Remember ... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
I like your picture so much here I had to go try your idea. For some reason, I got mostly yellow leaves and I think the reds are a bit more comfortable.
Remember ... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
I've just found this thread and I love the pic with the leaf 
I'm no photo expert so whilst I can't pass on any advice, I can learn myself from following your thread. You may think you're talking to yourself but you're helping others out there who want to improve too. Keep up the good work
I'm no photo expert so whilst I can't pass on any advice, I can learn myself from following your thread. You may think you're talking to yourself but you're helping others out there who want to improve too. Keep up the good work
Well ... I used to have an extensive selection of lenses and multiple bodies for SLR costing thousands .... When digital first came out, I quickly bought the first 5 Megapixel camera I could find (a Nikon) and sold all the film stuff because I knew over time, film was going away. ...
The "word" has always been that once you got to 8 megapixels, that would be the end of film because you could make reasonable 11 x 14" prints (provided you got the printer) which would match the resolution of a good 35mm 50mm lense ...
My use has used that little Nikon everyday. Since "film" is free, I'm betting she has taken at least 10K pictures over the last 3/4 years and now its getting pretty beat up. I guess its time to replace it but dont really want to spend thousands on a new DSLR body and start investing in lens again. Since the technology will continue to quickly advance, I'm betting on 20 megapixel bodies in a few years (since 12 is already out).
I view this is a big problem since with a SLR, once you bought a good body, you kept it forever ... lens technology would get better with better glass but bodies only added widgets. This might be the black hole of DSLRs ... a 6 or 8 megapixel body is already obsolete. What to do ... sigh.
I guess like most things, the wife will decide
The "word" has always been that once you got to 8 megapixels, that would be the end of film because you could make reasonable 11 x 14" prints (provided you got the printer) which would match the resolution of a good 35mm 50mm lense ...
My use has used that little Nikon everyday. Since "film" is free, I'm betting she has taken at least 10K pictures over the last 3/4 years and now its getting pretty beat up. I guess its time to replace it but dont really want to spend thousands on a new DSLR body and start investing in lens again. Since the technology will continue to quickly advance, I'm betting on 20 megapixel bodies in a few years (since 12 is already out).
I view this is a big problem since with a SLR, once you bought a good body, you kept it forever ... lens technology would get better with better glass but bodies only added widgets. This might be the black hole of DSLRs ... a 6 or 8 megapixel body is already obsolete. What to do ... sigh.
I guess like most things, the wife will decide
I think it all depends on uses, unlesss the space between the pixels is significantly decreasing; after acertain point (depend upon your uses) the quantity on mega pixels becomes irrelavant. I picked up my 6.3 MP DSLR 3 years ago in June I easily have over 50k images with it. The only time it would be considered obselete is when I'm on the sidelines at sporting events and the folks next to me are doing 15fps compared to my 3fps (but I still managed the better shot
) or if I wanted to blow something up to poster size or larger. I've used every DSLR in the same price range as my camera that is on the market by Canon, if/when I seek out an upgrade to find the same ease of function and durability I'm looking at having to go for a full professional body, as when my Camera was new it was a work horse for many pros, however Canon and Nikion have turned that same bracket/line of products into a consumer targeted market. But if I can get my CCD properly cleaned, and invest in a few lenses I doubt I'll be looking to upgrade for at least another 3,4 or 5 years. The body is rock solid and at 6.3 I can easily do 8x10s at film quality and I think even a little larger before anything is noticable. Besides a 16 MP image has a filesize that is a pain to work with.
) or if I wanted to blow something up to poster size or larger. I've used every DSLR in the same price range as my camera that is on the market by Canon, if/when I seek out an upgrade to find the same ease of function and durability I'm looking at having to go for a full professional body, as when my Camera was new it was a work horse for many pros, however Canon and Nikion have turned that same bracket/line of products into a consumer targeted market. But if I can get my CCD properly cleaned, and invest in a few lenses I doubt I'll be looking to upgrade for at least another 3,4 or 5 years. The body is rock solid and at 6.3 I can easily do 8x10s at film quality and I think even a little larger before anything is noticable. Besides a 16 MP image has a filesize that is a pain to work with.
There is nothing that beats a 25 ASA Kodachrome slide, which is the standard professionals use when they want to archive photos (never fades). When printing, lenses need to resolve something like 70 lines/mm. I read somewhere thats about 8 MegaPixels. Thats enuff for a good 8 x 10 print.
The thing is, once you really get into it, 8 x 10 is nothing. I can't tell you how many 16 x 20 and 20 x 24" prints we have had made, framed, and on the wall (when we were young, I said why buy pictures for the wall when we can make them). Over the years we had traveled extensively through the US and have a ton of them ... mostly landscapes.
Then it was the "wild animal phase" Had to catch the bears in Yellowstone and Mountain Goats in Glacier meaning 400 and 500 mm lens on tripods. Then the Macro phase ... pictures of coins and flowers ... Eventually we simply ran out of wall space
Over time, I sold Large quanities of 8 x 10 animal photos on eBay (when eBay was young) and silly me ... went through the "cleaning out" phase, threw out many, many frames AND 16 x 20s. Today we have maybe only a dozen 16 x 20s ... the best of the lot, on the walls.
So to get into it again ... 11 x 14 is marginal. 16 x 20 is about right. 20 x 24 is better. To make this large prints you need two things ... a printer than can reproduce them and pixels. You can never have enough megapixels when blowing up to larger sizes. 8 x 10 sure but any larger and people will see the difference in the prints.
As to file size, oh yeah, its a pain. Thats where you need some memory. I had scanned in some slides and the files were 100Mb or so. If your going to photochop them, you need 2 - 4 GIgs of memory or its just not going to happen
I think its all about what you want to do with your photos. If your going to make nice prints and frame them for display, 6Mb isn't going to cut it (IMO). 4 x 6 or 8 x 10, thats fine.
Just my opinion.
The thing is, once you really get into it, 8 x 10 is nothing. I can't tell you how many 16 x 20 and 20 x 24" prints we have had made, framed, and on the wall (when we were young, I said why buy pictures for the wall when we can make them). Over the years we had traveled extensively through the US and have a ton of them ... mostly landscapes.
Then it was the "wild animal phase" Had to catch the bears in Yellowstone and Mountain Goats in Glacier meaning 400 and 500 mm lens on tripods. Then the Macro phase ... pictures of coins and flowers ... Eventually we simply ran out of wall space

Over time, I sold Large quanities of 8 x 10 animal photos on eBay (when eBay was young) and silly me ... went through the "cleaning out" phase, threw out many, many frames AND 16 x 20s. Today we have maybe only a dozen 16 x 20s ... the best of the lot, on the walls.
So to get into it again ... 11 x 14 is marginal. 16 x 20 is about right. 20 x 24 is better. To make this large prints you need two things ... a printer than can reproduce them and pixels. You can never have enough megapixels when blowing up to larger sizes. 8 x 10 sure but any larger and people will see the difference in the prints.
As to file size, oh yeah, its a pain. Thats where you need some memory. I had scanned in some slides and the files were 100Mb or so. If your going to photochop them, you need 2 - 4 GIgs of memory or its just not going to happen

I think its all about what you want to do with your photos. If your going to make nice prints and frame them for display, 6Mb isn't going to cut it (IMO). 4 x 6 or 8 x 10, thats fine.
Just my opinion.
The sensors in a DSLR are larger than the point and shoots getting close, but not there yet, to 35mm film size. Point and shoots are much smaller.Meaning, while there are 10 mpixels point and shoots, they are about at the border of the technology. You got some 16 Mpixal DSRLs now and Hassleblad has a monster 39 Mpixals in medium format. Oh yeah, to own a Hassleblad
I was doing some research today and think I read they are close but not there yet. Many are dropping under $1K for the body. Pretty soon, they will be down to my range ... $100























