I have developed an easy to install kit to allow all MINI users to utilize the rear fog lights with the brake lights. This kit does not use a paperclip or require the cutting of the wires. This kit is complete and comes with easy to follow instructions. You do not have to remove the lights or cut and splice any wires. Installation can be done in under 15 minutes. This modification is also completely removable with no damage to lights or wires. I have also added the ability to use this kit with the Rear Fog Lights. I am offering these for $14.00 which includes shipping by USPS priority mail. The Diode is soldered on to the wire, covered with heat shrink and the installation is clearly defined and I provide toll free phone support during installation if needed.

Here is what is included in the kit.

Brake Light Mod Kit Wires

If interested please email me at minirolls@msn.com



Dave
Mini-Rolls

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"Tigger" 750mi - 2003 MC, VR/W, CVT, Premuim, Sport w/SS+, H/K Sound, Black Leatherette, S/S Skid plate, Alarm, Rear Brake Light Mod. Born - 12/06/02, Delivered 02/01/03

 

And the advantage over the jumper method is?

 

Is your stuff an in-series harness, with the conductors modified for desired output?

rocketboy_X, the paperclip method, although cheap and easy, is not safe. About two amps flow thru that paperclip, and it's not insulated either. Hit a bump, shorts out against the body, whoops, no more taillights! I'd prefer safe and insulated, I hope you would too!

Cheers,
Ryan

 

The connectors are in-series with the harness. the conductors do not need to be modified for output.

The advantage is that I am using automotive grade connectors and wire, with the jumper wire connected. The connectors I use are portected and cannot come loose, or pop off.

I am offering something that is very easy for anyone to install or remove. If someone what to do it with a paperclip or cut and splice wires that is fine. i am offering convenience, when you get the kit you can install it right away.

 

>>Is your stuff an in-series harness, with the conductors modified for desired output?
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>>rocketboy_X, the paperclip method, although cheap and easy, is not safe. About two amps flow thru that paperclip, and it's not insulated either. Hit a bump, shorts out against the body, whoops, no more taillights! I'd prefer safe and insulated, I hope you would too!
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>>Cheers,
>>Ryan

It's as insulated as the surrounding wires if you do it correctly. I live around what have to be some of the most bumpy roads in the nation and have put about 8k on my car since the mod - I recently rechecked the install and they haven't moved a millimeter. If done correctly there's no metal exposed.

 

I used one of these to jump the wires:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=64%2D3140

 

>>I used one of these to jump the wires:
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>>http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=64%2D3140
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I used about 4" of this for each side, for 1/100th the cost of minirolls's kit:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Bp6Sfb7...sp?i=575CPSW18



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Out of curiousity how do you have the rear fog lamps switched? Are they run to their own toggle, and if so does your kit include the toggle? I may be interested depending on how they operate and ease of installation/de-installation (which sounds easy).

 

>>Out of curiousity how do you have the rear fog lamps switched? Are they run to their own toggle, and if so does your kit include the toggle? I may be interested depending on how they operate and ease of installation/de-installation (which sounds easy).

The toggle is installed at the factory, and is located on the floor between the clutch toggle and the accelerator toggle under the big round thing on the dash in front of the driver's seat.

 

Gee, I don't use that toggle much, but do frequently use the accelerator toggle. So, the function of your kit essentially puts out more brake light illumination, which I suppose can't hurt. I was under the assumption you were making them actually function as rear fog lamps.

 

Why don't you just tell them how to do it. I did mine by reading the thread and it cost me .11 for the two wire crimps. Also I did a few of my fellow motors cars for free. I think the spirt of this kind of mod should be for all because of its safety feature. Light Mod thread...How to step by step....Free Try this thread

 

>>rocketboy_X, the paperclip method, although cheap and easy, is not safe. About two amps flow thru that paperclip, and it's not insulated either. Hit a bump, shorts out against the body, whoops, no more taillights! I'd prefer safe and insulated, I hope you would too!
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Not if it's secured properly.. not to mention it's highly improbable that only one side would fall out, thus allowing the other side to rub up against another piece of bare metal. I've been doing 30-35 on brick roads w/o any problems...

Rocketboy_X

 

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>>Why don't you just tell them how to do it. I did mine by reading the thread and it cost me .11 for the two wire crimps. Also I did a few of my fellow motors cars for free. I think the spirt of this kind of mod should be for all because of its safety feature. Light Mod thread...How to step by step....Free Try this thread


I am not saying to not use this the thread you listed or to not go out and buy the items yourself. I have taken the time to build a jumper for each side of the car, I purchase the connectors and the wires and put the units together. The installer does not have go get anything else and you can install without any tools. You do not cut wires, which I know if you have ever had a problem the dealer would void the warranty work as you have damaged the wiring harness.

As far as this:
>>I used about 4" of this for each side, for 1/100th the cost of minirolls's kit:
>>http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Bp6Sfb7...sp?i=575CPSW18

If anyone would use speaker wire for electrical connections, I would question that. Speaker wire does not have the same ratings as automtive electrical wire.

I am offering one stop shopping for this product. As stated, it is easy to install, removed and does not cut the wiring harness.

 

I agree that uing a paper clip is a little much but using a crimper #14 and inserting the wire will in noway void a warrenty. I was simply saying you should show people the way you did it as I did and let them make the decide. And I know what kind of $$ the items you are using cost. Lets try to help the people that want to do this but lack the know how and show them on a thread instead of selling them something.

 

>>I agree that uing a paper clip is a little much but using a crimper #14 and inserting the wire will in noway void a warrenty. I was simply saying you should show people the way you did it as I did and let them make the decide. And I know what kind of $$ the items you are using cost. Lets try to help the people that want to do this but lack the know how and show them on a thread instead of selling them something.

This the same as buying a wiring kit to install a aftermarket radio. Way not just show everyone how to splice the radio wires. People that want to buy them will buy them, if they want to research where to get the parts, go out and get them then put in the parts they will do that also......it is all down to choices.

It is also like the plastic covers for the lights or the paint, why not just buy a sheet of the mateial for the mfgr and cut your own. Why buy the precut pieces from a vendor? Answer,: since they cut it, it makes it easier to install...

 

The advantage to mini-rolls's kit is for the people, such as myself, who have no clue about electronics, and wouldn't even know where or how to go about buying a "crimper #14" or any of the other materials needed for this mod. I wanted to do this months ago, but haven't for this reason.

With other mechanical work on the car, I'm interested in learning how to do it myself. With this brake light mod, I don't really care to learn about it, I just want to do it and have the extra lights (is that so wrong? ).

 

Life is hard...this sounds easy.
$12 isn't going to break the bank.

 

>>I agree that uing a paper clip is a little much but using a crimper #14 and inserting the wire will in noway void a warrenty. I was simply saying you should show people the way you did it as I did and let them make the decide. And I know what kind of $$ the items you are using cost. Lets try to help the people that want to do this but lack the know how and show them on a thread instead of selling them something.
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definally not a get rich over night deal
and why buy a crimper you'll only use once (the crimper probably costs $12)
i think $12 is a fair price (easy and convenient)
and if you want to do it yourself, there's a couple of theads that show you how

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FYI: 12-14 guage speaker wire is MORE than fine. The current wire going to this area is like 22 guage.

R

 

>>I used one of these to jump the wires:
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>>http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=64%2D3140
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1.99 from any Radio Shack, 30 seconds to install. Removable.

He speaks the simple truth!

 

If you take the little white plastic clip off the connector, you can then take the no. 1 wire out by using a little pressure on the silver metal connector end, (use a fine knife point). There is a small metal collar which you can pry open with your thumb nail. Next get a 2'' piece of plastic coated wire, strip 1/4'' off each end exposing the wire, slip one end of stripped wire under the small metal collar and crimp closed with pliers. Push the no.1 wire back in the connector and take out the no. 4 wire and go through the same procedure, connecting the other end of your stripped 2'' wire. Push the no. 4 wire back into the connector, replace the white plastic clip and reconnect the modified connector. Do the same thing to the other light assembly. You'll have a very clean job with all your wires left as original. It's totally reversible with no damage to original parts. Use fine wire for your 2'' jumper. Ron.

 

Installed mini-rolls's kit this morning, and boy was it easy. I paid $12 with shipping, but on the other hand I didn't spend any time searching out parts that I know nothing about, and it literally took about 5 minutes. I also have the peace of mind that the mod is constructed of proper materials and isn't going to cause any problems, come loose, etc.

Whatever, $12 and now I finally have the rear fogs that I've wanted since December. I recommend this for anyone squeamish or unknowledgeable aout electronics. EASY. Thanks Dave!


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Thank you Chris...

>>>I didn't spend any time searching out parts that I know nothing about, and it literally took about 5 minutes. I also have the peace of mind that the mod is constructed of proper materials and isn't going to cause any problems, come loose, etc.

This is why I came up with this idea....it is for the MINI-Owner that wants piece of mind and does not know what to do or where to get the items. ANd wants to install this to the piece of mind of the additional brake light.

 

>>Thank you Chris...
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>>>>>I didn't spend any time searching out parts that I know nothing about, and it literally took about 5 minutes. I also have the peace of mind that the mod is constructed of proper materials and isn't going to cause any problems, come loose, etc.
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>>This is why I came up with this idea....it is for the MINI-Owner that wants piece of mind and does not know what to do or where to get the items. ANd wants to install this to the piece of mind of the additional brake light.
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or for the MINI-owner that does have the know how, but wants to be lazy

 

That works also.....