I am thinking of selling my 2005 MCS with JCW. It is EB/B with black stripes. It doesn't have the LSD, Sport, Nav, or cold weather package. No leather, but does have the grey leatherette (which looks cool). It is the 210bhp JCW kit, and it has aux connector, euro tray, and is completely stock (except for OEM parts). It has 27,000 miles on it.

What is a good asking price. So few of these sell, that it is hard to get a good price. Even more so few sell that are completely stock. I was thinking $26,000, but didn't know if that was a good number. Any ideas on where to start it at?

 

Your not going to like this. kbb.com says for private sale in Atlanta, LESS than 21K.

There is no way to add the JCW stuff.

I think the 27000 mile is a killer!

 

I think that JCW without LSD and sports will hurt you now.
My JCW '03 with similar mileage sold at the dealership for between $23K & $24K; even though yours is an '05, I don't see you getting more than that with a private sale.

Realistically the sticker was probably about $21K+$6K for the JCW so you are thinking of asking almost new price for a 27000 mile year old car ... someone paying that much will do much better to get brand new and have the choice of LSD and other options.

 

I think the LSD will hurt me, but I can't figure out how the sport will hurt me. Everyone complains about the overweight 17" tires and how stupid the DSC is and everyone turns it off. Besides those two things, why would you want the sport?

Mine was $28,500 without taxes from Classic Mini (so no overcharges). I have every other option, such as Xenons, moonroof.... The LSD was not available in December, though. KBB has the price at $21k for miles without the JCW. I figured the JCW might add between $3k-$4k. It is so hard, because so few are sold. I have seen a few with 5,000 miles (used) like mine, but with leather, LSD, nav sell for $31K at dealerships.

If yours sold for $23k-$24k and mine is newer with the better gearing, than probably $24k-$25k might be reasonable.

 

One data point: I know of an 04 non-LSD JCW car with 20k miles that sold recently in Northern CA (after a long time on the market) for $25k.

You will get your best money selling into the CA market, no doubt.

 

You can't go by the dealership prices.

The mileage is the killer.

Best of luck though

 

IMO, you're getting closer with this calculation. You've got two years worth of mileage, and no DSC or foglights. Without the premium I can see it marketed to the lightweight track crowd, so it seems to be a 'tweener' car.

If you use your $31K dealer baseline:
less $2K (not a dealer)
less $1K Nav
less $1K leather
less $2K mileage (maybe $3K - that's .10-.15 per mile)
less $.5K LSD

gets you to $24-25, unless the others had DSC/Fog, less $500 for those.

Driving out to CA almost makes sense. I got my loaded 22K mile '04 for $21K in VA - anything similar in CA was ~$25K.

 

I have the fog lights. I have every option except for those few that were listed above. All the rest was added ala carte. I am suprised the DSC makes that big of a difference. I have been on this board for quite some time, and I haven't heard one good thing about the DSC yet or anything about the 17" bricks acting as wheels. So I cannot figure out for the life of me, why the sport package makes a big difference. I have the other items from the sport package already on.

 

Just kbb it for privat party price.....figure the percent depreciation from your purchase price minus the jcw(the miles mill be accounted for then) Apply that percent depreciation to the full cost of the JCW and I believe you will have an very fair asking price.

 

Man, you'd think that a JCW car would command a better price, since that seems to be one of the principle reasons people get the JCW kit in the first place.

 

Now that it's a factory option, it may show up in the books, although maybe only for '06 models... Hard to say...

 

I agree the problem is that so few of them are sold there isn't an accurate trend for pricing. No one lists them (i.e. kelly, NADA....), and you the few you see (I have only seen 2 2005's for sale) aren't enough to determine a fair asking price.

 

Well, IMO The benefit of the JCW is that it doesn't HURT re-sale, unlike aftermarket mods. The JCW does add VALUE but still depreciates in proportion to the rest of the car. For example if you go to edmunds and select/deselect the sport pkg it doesnt add the $1250 original cost to the value of the car.....It adds like $900 now