JCW JCW Pro Suspension (Coilovers)
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I haven't done one, but my understanding is that it's a dealer installed item. But your dealer will know for sure. It probably doesn't make any difference either way it should be on your car when you pick it up and pay for it.
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$6k for that???? Heck that's about what my entire JCW "upgrade" cost: turbo, ECU, Brembos, and body kit. And the Sport Suspension option was only like $250 on my car. Yeah I know it's just the sway bars but still........
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The F series is way more expensive. Brembos are about $3.5k for just the fronts. Willwoods are close to $2k for fronts. So brakes alone will account for that $6k after labor if you want "street cred" and go with Brembos. A turbo that's an actual upgrade starts around the $2k mark. Adding front a rear swaybars I'm getting quoted about $800 in just labor.
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The F series is way more expensive. Brembos are about $3.5k for just the fronts. Willwoods are close to $2k for fronts. So brakes alone will account for that $6k after labor if you want "street cred" and go with Brembos. A turbo that's an actual upgrade starts around the $2k mark. Adding front a rear swaybars I'm getting quoted about $800 in just labor.
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There's an $8k difference for base models. Turbo is the same between the S and JCW, While the brakes are included in the JCW coils are not. The standard JCW coils are actually an option for the S while the coils OP is talking about cost about $2k if added later - I don't know how much they are when optioned during the build but it's probably a little cheaper.
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Gotcha. On the later Gen2 cars the turbo is different on the JCW than on the MCS (it was the same on the Gen1 cars I think). It's weird you can't get the JCW coilovers on the JCW but you can on the MCS. I know you can get the Sport Suspension "free" on the Gen3 JCW but that's only swaybars not coilovers
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IIRC the Sport Suspension which is standard on the JCW stopped being offered as an option for the S after the '16 model. Also it's not just different sway bars since the shocks and springs have different part numbers from the base suspension.
And, $3.5K for the brembo front brakes? Where are you getting these prices? I know at $1350.00 I got a good deal on the complete JCW BBK (all four wheels) including the required reprogramming. My Independent Mini Tech ordered the parts, installed them, and programmed them for that price. That included installing the NM braided stainless brake lines that I supplied.
The JCW Pro coil overs are made by KW and are basically the V1 version, just a different color. You can find KW V1 sets all day for ~$1500 and my regular mechanic checked the labor hours by the book for installation and it came out to ~$500 labor.
My buddy has a lift and I'm going to be installing my RMW coil overs w/camber plates Saturday. The ones I'm taking off are BC Racing w/camber plates, and you can get those new for ~1K new.
And, $3.5K for the brembo front brakes? Where are you getting these prices? I know at $1350.00 I got a good deal on the complete JCW BBK (all four wheels) including the required reprogramming. My Independent Mini Tech ordered the parts, installed them, and programmed them for that price. That included installing the NM braided stainless brake lines that I supplied.
The JCW Pro coil overs are made by KW and are basically the V1 version, just a different color. You can find KW V1 sets all day for ~$1500 and my regular mechanic checked the labor hours by the book for installation and it came out to ~$500 labor.
My buddy has a lift and I'm going to be installing my RMW coil overs w/camber plates Saturday. The ones I'm taking off are BC Racing w/camber plates, and you can get those new for ~1K new.
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IIRC the Sport Suspension which is standard on the JCW stopped being offered as an option for the S after the '16 model. Also it's not just different sway bars since the shocks and springs have different part numbers from the base suspension.
And, $3.5K for the brembo front brakes? Where are you getting these prices? I know at $1350.00 I got a good deal on the complete JCW BBK (all four wheels) including the required reprogramming. My Independent Mini Tech ordered the parts, installed them, and programmed them for that price. That included installing the NM braided stainless brake lines that I supplied.
The JCW Pro coil overs are made by KW and are basically the V1 version, just a different color. You can find KW V1 sets all day for ~$1500 and my regular mechanic checked the labor hours by the book for installation and it came out to ~$500 labor.
My buddy has a lift and I'm going to be installing my RMW coil overs w/camber plates Saturday. The ones I'm taking off are BC Racing w/camber plates, and you can get those new for ~1K new.
And, $3.5K for the brembo front brakes? Where are you getting these prices? I know at $1350.00 I got a good deal on the complete JCW BBK (all four wheels) including the required reprogramming. My Independent Mini Tech ordered the parts, installed them, and programmed them for that price. That included installing the NM braided stainless brake lines that I supplied.
The JCW Pro coil overs are made by KW and are basically the V1 version, just a different color. You can find KW V1 sets all day for ~$1500 and my regular mechanic checked the labor hours by the book for installation and it came out to ~$500 labor.
My buddy has a lift and I'm going to be installing my RMW coil overs w/camber plates Saturday. The ones I'm taking off are BC Racing w/camber plates, and you can get those new for ~1K new.
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The JCW BBK front brakes are Brembo. Sure, you can spend a butt load of money on 6 piston Brembo's, but on a Mini IMHO that would be serious overkill. If the standard JCW brakes (same as BBK) are good enough for the IMSA Minis they should be able to handle anything we throw at them. Although the ST class is no more, they're still running the same brakes this season. When mine have a bunch more miles on them I'll rebuild them using stainless steel pistons, but other than that and good pads I don't believe I'll need any more than that.
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Yes it's a dealer installed option, but install cost and parts cost will vary from dealer to dealer. We have done several sets as people have brought us many brand new cars we do it right after they get it, or we have installed the KW V2 set which is very similar, but has rebound adjustment.
We keep them in stock
https://www.waymotorworks.com/john-c...-cooper-s.html
But KW also has a rebate of $250 on the V2 right now so they are an even better bargain and you get adj rebound
https://www.waymotorworks.com/kw-var...overs-f56.html
Either way I would also install one of our bigger rear sway bars as they are really easy to do while the rear springs are out, and will improve the handling even more
https://www.waymotorworks.com/wmw-25...5-f56-f57.html
We keep them in stock
https://www.waymotorworks.com/john-c...-cooper-s.html
But KW also has a rebate of $250 on the V2 right now so they are an even better bargain and you get adj rebound
https://www.waymotorworks.com/kw-var...overs-f56.html
Either way I would also install one of our bigger rear sway bars as they are really easy to do while the rear springs are out, and will improve the handling even more
https://www.waymotorworks.com/wmw-25...5-f56-f57.html
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I didn't know the pistons were plastic though. You sure it's not just a protective coating on a steel or aluminum piston to prevent wear and corrosion?
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I was "hopeful" it might be a factory or port install option to be legal for DS classing (SCCA Solo). But the way I read the rules, if dealer installs it, you get bumped to STU. I suppose I could write the letter to main office for a judgement... but I don't see them allowing it.
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Check this thread for a picture of the pistons.https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...r-rebuild.html
If anyone has info to the contrary, please let me know and please point me to where I can buy the SS pistons for these brakes. If I have some time this weekend, I'll open mine up and take a look at the pistons.
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Yeah they have different numbers but they are basically identical to the base suspension. And the sway bars aren't as thick as the aftermarket ones either. The SS is better but not WAY better. Waddaya want for $250?
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The thread quoted here is for the R56 JCW brembo's, not the F56 JCW brembos. I have not been able to find anything mentioning anywhere that the F56 JCW brakes still have that plastic bit on them to reduce heat transfer to the piston. I also cannot find anyone selling a piston upgrade for them. From my research, it looks like the older M3's also had this piece of plastic with similar problems and had aftermarket companies do SS pistons as well. from what I can find the new M3's dont have it and no aftermarket pistons as a result. It would appear as if BMW learned from this mistake and has corrected it.
If anyone has info to the contrary, please let me know and please point me to where I can buy the SS pistons for these brakes. If I have some time this weekend, I'll open mine up and take a look at the pistons.
If anyone has info to the contrary, please let me know and please point me to where I can buy the SS pistons for these brakes. If I have some time this weekend, I'll open mine up and take a look at the pistons.
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