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Old 03-07-2019, 10:37 AM
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New Member, Just Picked up an 06 JCW

I have always had a love for the Mini Cooper and I remember wanting one when they were introduced back in 2002. At that time it didnít fit the needs of our growing family and it was a bit out of my budget so I never did buy one. A few years ago I test drove the Gen 2 and 3 Miniís and while the Gen 2 was fun I thought it was starting to get big. The Gen 3 was not for me and Iíll leave it at that.

About 2 years ago I started looking for a Gen 1 Mini but was sidetracked by another car that I had to have, so the Mini purchase was postponed yet again. Fast forward to a couple of months ago, I started looking for a Mini in earnest and had several motivations to get one with my son getting close to driving age. The prices are also very attractive although they do seem to be creeping up. Being a bit **** I wanted one with lower mileage (less than 50k) and it had to be a Cooper S or JCW. I had some help and guidance from a friend who ownís a couple of R53ís and I read up on the issues. Initially I was a bit dissapointed as there were very few available and when one popped up it sold almost immediately.

Earlier this week I finally bought a 2006 Cooper S JCW!! Against my better judgement this is a sight unseen purchase and I donít have the car yet, Iím hoping for delivery late next week. I bought the car from a Subaru dealer so as you can imagine they donít know the car that well and I really donít know exactly what options the car has. I have tried using the VIN Decoder but for some reason it wonít decode even though the carfax and other avenues recognize the VIN. Can anyone offer guidance on this?

I donít have any modifications planned yet since I really donít know if the car will have any needs. The dealer did do their inspection and I specifically asked about the clutch and oil leaks and tires and they stated there were no issues. They did replace the battery, oil and wipers. They said the rest of the car was in excellent shape/health and judging by the pictures I couldnít argue with that but you still never know until you get the car.

If you all have suggestions on maintenance I should do when I get the car please let me know. It has 13k miles so not sure if changing all fluids is still a must?

Here are some pics of the incoming toy....





 

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Old 03-07-2019, 10:45 AM
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An all original unmodified low mileage astro black 06 JCW w/ black english panther leather seats and sport chrono package is UNOBTANIUM. Couldnt have gone to a better home. Welcome to NAM. Cant wait for the magic to unfold with your detailing skills and meticulous attention to details.
 
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Congratulations on your find. I hope it is everything you expect. This is the first first-generation MINI I have seen on the forum with less miles than mine. Mine had 13,500 miles when I bought it last year and I am now just under 18,000. I had all the fluids changed and had the mechanic go over it top to bottom. It was a longer list than I expected including thermostat housing, one strut, and the wiring was chewed by mice.

If the tires are original, you will likely want to replace them. Tires tend to dry-rot before the tread is gone with this few miles on them. You may want to go without the run-flats and carry a can of fix-a-flat, a pump and a cell phone.
 
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Old 03-07-2019, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by w00tMINI View Post
An all original unmodified low mileage astro black 06 JCW w/ black english panther leather seats and sport chrono package is UNOBTANIUM. Couldnt have gone to a better home. Welcome to NAM. Cant wait for the magic to unfold with your detailing skills and meticulous attention to details.
Thanks! Stay tuned for a complete detailing with some pictures of course

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Congratulations on your find. I hope it is everything you expect. This is the first first-generation MINI I have seen on the forum with less miles than mine. Mine had 13,500 miles when I bought it last year and I am now just under 18,000. I had all the fluids changed and had the mechanic go over it top to bottom. It was a longer list than I expected including thermostat housing, one strut, and the wiring was chewed by mice.

If the tires are original, you will likely want to replace them. Tires tend to dry-rot before the tread is gone with this few miles on them. You may want to go without the run-flats and carry a can of fix-a-flat, a pump and a cell phone.
Thanks! There’s an 8K mile JCW on Bring A Trailer as we speak, looks super nice as well. I wasn’t going for ultra low miles but I couldn’t pass this one up, it was a decent deal and looked to be in excellent condition. Fingers crossed!

Good point on the tires. I did ask the dealer about this specifically and asked if the tires are less than 5 years old and they said they were so I’m assuming they were changed at some point. I’ll check the date stamps immediately when the car gets here to confirm, otherwise I’m going to give them a hard time about it.

When you had your fluids changed did you ask your mechanic if the fluids still looked ok? I know brake fluid needs to be changed every two years and I have a Motiv Bleeder so I can do this one myself but the transmission and coolant would need to be done by a tech as I’m not set up to do this in my garage. I would think with low mileage the transmission fluid should be fine?



 
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Good looking purchase! Nice options, I always liked the panther seats.
 
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Old 03-08-2019, 06:52 AM
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When you had your fluids changed did you ask your mechanic if the fluids still looked ok? I know brake fluid needs to be changed every two years and I have a Motiv Bleeder so I can do this one myself but the transmission and coolant would need to be done by a tech as Iím not set up to do this in my garage. I would think with low mileage the transmission fluid should be fine?
The fluids looked good when he changed them, however, I have no idea if they were previously changed. The dealership told me they just did an oil change, but I doubted they used synthetic so I had that done again. I tried to reach out to the prior owner but got no response.
 
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Originally Posted by w00tMINI View Post
An all original unmodified low mileage astro black 06 JCW w/ black english panther leather seats and sport chrono package is UNOBTANIUM. Couldnt have gone to a better home. Welcome to NAM. Cant wait for the magic to unfold with your detailing skills and meticulous attention to details.
Indeed, that is quite the little unicorn you have found there. What a beauty. Keep us posted when it arrives and you get a chance to dig in to it.
 
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Old 03-08-2019, 09:15 AM
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Good looking purchase! Nice options, I always liked the panther seats.
I havenít sat in the seats but I do remember configuring the car with the seats when I was looking online years ago. Very excited to have found one with the seats.

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The fluids looked good when he changed them, however, I have no idea if they were previously changed. The dealership told me they just did an oil change, but I doubted they used synthetic so I had that done again. I tried to reach out to the prior owner but got no response.
That makes sense, I guess time is a factor and fluids will eventually degrade. I think Iíll be able to get some records on the car so Iíll have to wait and see what I need to get done.

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Indeed, that is quite the little unicorn you have found there. What a beauty. Keep us posted when it arrives and you get a chance to dig in to it.
Thanks! I canít wait to see it and more importantly, DRIVE IT!

Anyone have any thoughts why the vin decoder isnít working for me? Iím still wanting to figure out if the car was a factory JCW or a Dealer Installed. The dealer did send me a pic of the JCW document and it has the brake upgrade but again I donít know if its factory.
 
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Old 03-08-2019, 11:51 AM
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Try the following decoder:

https://www.mdecoder.com/
 
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:59 PM
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Try the following decoder:

https://www.mdecoder.com/
Thank you, that worked!

I got pretty lucky on this one, itís a factory JCW with LSD and Sport Suspension. Tons of other options but I really donít know what was standard on these cars, itís been too long since I used the configurator.

Now Iím really excited to get it!
 
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Old 03-10-2019, 02:32 PM
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Detailed and ready to go...



 
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:05 AM
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Congratulations, thatís an incredible find!

As far as fluids and filters, you may want to get a Carfax or check with any MINI dealer to get the service history. If unsure, Iíd go ahead and replace the brake fluid, coolant, cabin filter, and engine air filter just so you have a solid baseline. It would be worth having it inspected for the usual leaks (power steering lines, oil pan gasket, etc) as seals can wear out simply due to age. Also inspect the surpentine belt for signs of aging, and consider proactive replacement.

Cosmetically, the car is probably fine with such low mileage, but black paint (and MINI paint in general) can swirl, depending on how it was maintained. May want a paint correction and sealant to protect it for years to come. And the English Leather seats always benefit from cleaning and a good leather conditioner, to preserve and keep the leather from drying out.

I also have a very low mileage factory JCW. These cars are such a blast. Keep us posted on your progress!
 
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:33 AM
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Fantastic find!
Welcome to the wonderful world of MINIs and welcome to NAM!
You are going to have fun with this one:
Love to hear about your adventures. A JCW has no need for mods; but when did that stop anyone?

MINI says that the transmission fluid is “lifetime”. That said, a good rule of thumb is 30k for that one.
I would change the supercharger belt given how old it is, not because of miles.

It needs a name and love and it will respond with giving a million smiles.

Enjoy!
 
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:36 AM
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Congratulations, thatís an incredible find!

As far as fluids and filters, you may want to get a Carfax or check with any MINI dealer to get the service history. If unsure, Iíd go ahead and replace the brake fluid, coolant, cabin filter, and engine air filter just so you have a solid baseline. It would be worth having it inspected for the usual leaks (power steering lines, oil pan gasket, etc) as seals can wear out simply due to age. Also inspect the surpentine belt for signs of aging, and consider proactive replacement.

Cosmetically, the car is probably fine with such low mileage, but black paint (and MINI paint in general) can swirl, depending on how it was maintained. May want a paint correction and sealant to protect it for years to come. And the English Leather seats always benefit from cleaning and a good leather conditioner, to preserve and keep the leather from drying out.

I also have a very low mileage factory JCW. These cars are such a blast. Keep us posted on your progress!
She arrived on Thursday this week and due to being in an open carrier she was a bit of a mess. Driver said he hit a big snow storm on his way south from Jackson. I have already started cleaning the exterior and the paint will definitely need some help. Seems rare to find a dark colored car that isnít full of swirls and light scratches. Fortunately I have a ton of experience polishing cars and I can bring her back to perfect fairly easily. The interior is literally new, it even smells new, itís insane.

I will do the brake fluid flush and the air filter this summer as preventative measures. I checked the power steering hoses and theyíre dry. Coolant reservoir is also good. The bigger issue is that the dealer was wrong about the tires, theyíre original to the car and thyeíre bricks. They have an 05 date stamp and I have already notified the dealer on it. They have verbally offered to pay for replacement, Iím waiting for confirmation. Tires are pricey for these things considering how small they are. Iím likely going to switch to non run flat unless the dealer insists on the tires matching (which I doubt they will). At this point Iím leaning towards Pirelli P Zero tires, they weigh less and have a good rating. My go to us Michelin but the prices are too high to justify.

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Fantastic find!
Welcome to the wonderful world of MINIs and welcome to NAM!
You are going to have fun with this one:
Love to hear about your adventures. A JCW has no need for mods; but when did that stop anyone?

MINI says that the transmission fluid is ďlifetimeĒ. That said, a good rule of thumb is 30k for that one.
I would change the supercharger belt given how old it is, not because of miles.

It needs a name and love and it will respond with giving a million smiles.

Enjoy!
Thanks! Knowing the fluid is designed for lifetime is a bonus and I agree that 30k would be appropriate so I have some time. The car shifts perfectly and the shifter is very smooth and direct. Clutch and brakes are also perfect as is the acceleration. Overal itís a fun car. Itís odd that it doesnít feel that small when youíre inside but it definitely is tiny when you park it in the garage or around town.

Here are some shots of its arrival and progress






 
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That cleaned up right pretty!

There is something about that silver roof that makes me think that this car is something a little more special than just being a JCW, but I can’t remember what. Maybe someone else remembers. You also have a car with the chrono (spelling may be off on that one) gage package, which is also somewhat rare. I sometimes wish we had gotten that on our ‘04.

Congrats!
 
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Congrats on the find......I also found an "06 JCW last year, except mine has just over 100,000 miles, plus it's a convertible, and it was a basket case.......but that's another thread in this forum that I posted last year......

I was looking at your pictures and I noticed that the 'engine stickers or decals" seem to be missing on the radiator support.....(see my photo below).....I also saw that your AC condenser sticker was gone also.....was just curious as to why they are gone with such low mileage.....

Anyway....enjoy the car.....I'm still putting mine back together

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That cleaned up right pretty!

There is something about that silver roof that makes me think that this car is something a little more special than just being a JCW, but I can’t remember what. Maybe someone else remembers. You also have a car with the chrono (spelling may be off on that one) gage package, which is also somewhat rare. I sometimes wish we had gotten that on our ‘04.

Congrats!
Thanks! That pic was after some quick detail and several microfibers to remove all the surface dirt that the touchless wash didn’t remove.

I remember reading somewhere that the silver roof was only offered in the last two years? Have you owned your car since new? It would have been great to configure exactly the way you wanted it.

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Congrats on the find......I also found an "06 JCW last year, except mine has just over 100,000 miles, plus it's a convertible, and it was a basket case.......but that's another thread in this forum that I posted last year......

I was looking at your pictures and I noticed that the 'engine stickers or decals" seem to be missing on the radiator support.....(see my photo below).....I also saw that your AC condenser sticker was gone also.....was just curious as to why they are gone with such low mileage.....

Anyway....enjoy the car.....I'm still putting mine back together

Bryan
Thanks Bryan!

I also noticed the missing stickers and I really don’t know why. Initially I thought maybe it was in a fender bender but I have looked for signs of overspray, mismatched paint color and any other signs fo damage but couldn’t find anything. I don’t have any records on the car other than one from the previous owner so I’m not sure if it had a bad radiator, AC Radiator or something else that required replacement? I need to find the part numbers for the stickers so I can get replacements at some point. Good luck with the rebuild of yours, they’re totally worth it and having something to tinker with in the garage is always fun.

I spent the day today detailing the Mini including:
- Leatherique Prestine Clean for the seats
- Detailed Interior
- Two Step Paint Correction Using Meguiars 105 and Menzerna 800
- Carnauba Wax

It normally takes me three to four days to do a full detail but the interior was already pretty clean and it is a Mini The paint definitely took some time, especially the hood. She looks great now, I’m pretty happy with the results. Here’s some pics.....











 
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Thanks! That pic was after some quick detail and several microfibers to remove all the surface dirt that the touchless wash didnít remove.

I remember reading somewhere that the silver roof was only offered in the last two years? Have you owned your car since new? It would have been great to configure exactly the way you wanted it.


When my wife bought her Ď04 MINI there were none ďon the lotĒ. You were lucky to get one at list price, let alone one with a mark-up. Plus there was an 8 to 12 week production cycle. We started in the summer of Ď03 and she was sold on the car when she sat in one in the show room and closed the door on it. There was nothing like or as solid feeling on the market. That is all that it took. Then she spent a week on the MINI web site picking what she wanted. Back then, they had a lot of options. There was even a series of JCW options for the base Cooper, like a JCW exhaust and a JCW head for the engine. At the time we had limited funds, so the chrono package box didnít get checked. But I did encourage her to check the box for the sport seats. She went for the optional Indi Blue metallic paint, cold weather package, the sun roof and CVT. She got the car on her birthday in October and I surprised her with the MINI white bonnet stripes, which are still on the car. Doing the options was part of the fun and mystique of buying a MINI back then. I also ordered my 2012 (in 2011) with the options I wanted. My big priorities were the optional suspension package and the S model. I looked hard at a JCW but, couldnít swing it. It also may have been a good thing as they were still using the N14 engine, not the upgraded N18 engine.

I keep noticing options on your car. I see that it has the optional areo package, which is somewhat uncommon. Someone went though the MINI build site and checked a lot of boxes when they ordered your car and made a lot of nice choices.
 
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Fantastic looking car, and the extra fun from all the JCW add-ons, defiantly a smile maker

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Welcome it looks like it cleaned up nice.
Originally Posted by JABowders View Post
Fantastic looking car, and the extra fun from all the JCW add-ons, defiantly a smile maker

Motor On!
Thanks! We have already put a few hundred miles on her and the more we drive the more we love it. I took my 14yo son out the other night and taught him how to change gears while I was driving so he could get a feel for how to shift gears. I actually bought her with the plan that our kids could learn how to drive on it but I am now rethinking this as the car is too nice.
 
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MINIs have a “bad” habit of putting smiles on people’s faces.

As for letting your kids drive it, condsider how solid these cars are. There are a number of posts on NAM her about MINIs being in accident and the people walking away from them. But when you see the pictures of the cars, you wonder how that could be, because there was so much damage. My wife is not a “driver” person. But when she got her MINI she very quickly found the benefits of a really good handling car and how how it will keep you out of problems. The other thing she found was how easy these cars are to drive. And even driving these as a stick, they are easy. Years ago I taught 2 of my daughters how to drive stick and they are proud of that accomplishment.

I would vote (if I had a vote in this) to continue with your original plan. But I would expand it a little to have them help with the care of the car and maintenance of it. Share with them your appreciation for how it looks, how it feels and the enjoyment they have with it. Teach the little things like changing tires and oil; how to check the oil, coolant, etc. Take them to car shows. These will be memories that will live with them forever. Share the love...

And motor on!
 
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Finally got some new tires put on and wow what a difference that made!!! When I told the dealer about the tires they asked for a quote for replacements and promptly sent me a check. I picked up some P Zeroís which are super sticky.

Here are some glamour shots.....






 
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A heads up -
Did you do a "full" brake fluid change ?
You need to go in with a computer in the OBD port and turn on the Dynamic Stability Control to change ALL of the fluid. Otherwise, only a portion of the fluid is changed.

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