JCW First in line for 2020 JCW GP!
First in line for 2020 JCW GP!
Good day to all - well, I’m sure most everybody by now has seen the Road and Track article on the 2020 JCW GP. I have a link below in case you haven’t. So I popped in to see my buddy/SA on Saturday to get an update. I even got to see some pics that I really wasn’t supposed to see. I am at the top of the waiting list for a build spot. So it’s the standard GP deal here, 500 cars will be sold in the US, supposedly 2000 worldwide. So I’m not trying to start a war here, but I think we all know that 2013 was an absolute bust. I mean no disrespect to ‘13 owners, but come on. 2 less HP than a standard JCW, pretty much the same body, just no back seats and a better suspension. That’s about it! So on the 2020 version, I think there will be 2 camps. 1 that absolutely LOVES the concept (like me), and 2.....those that are going to hate it! Like the roll cage, no music, no back seats, a huge wing, those crazy side panels...and everything else. And who knows how close the concept car is going to be to the actual production car. I’m just saying that if it comes out in black, and somehow looks just like the concept....I will love it!
So one thing about this forum, is the vast majority here are cool with whatever the owner wants....and thinks their car is perfect for their taste, everyone seems to respect that. I think the concept car is incredible, while on the other hand I know that a lot of people are going to hate it. And I’m perfectly fine with that! I’m just very excited that I am on top of the “build list”. Picture and video below.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ming-for-2020/
So one thing about this forum, is the vast majority here are cool with whatever the owner wants....and thinks their car is perfect for their taste, everyone seems to respect that. I think the concept car is incredible, while on the other hand I know that a lot of people are going to hate it. And I’m perfectly fine with that! I’m just very excited that I am on top of the “build list”. Picture and video below.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ming-for-2020/
It looks great and I think that is going to be the selling factor in the GP but if you look at the engine specs .... meh
I like building mine up, but don't get me wrong, I love the concept designs and if it looks like anything like that then Im interested for sure
I like building mine up, but don't get me wrong, I love the concept designs and if it looks like anything like that then Im interested for sure
That's cool we hope it is something really serious.
Keep in mind last time current GP owners got first option to buy 2 weeks before anyone else could place a GP order. That is how I got my GP2.
Keep in mind last time current GP owners got first option to buy 2 weeks before anyone else could place a GP order. That is how I got my GP2.
I was not aware that current owners got first shot at the GP until I read the above post! That said, my mini dealer assured me that I would get the first shot at one. I have not had a GP before, but I did purchase an R56 JCW and an F56 JCW from them and I really love both of them.
My lawyer say's it'll cost $35k just to start the divorce proceedings! Roll cage is awesome but could wreak havoc on the first responders when they try to peel me out, after they tip it back upright. Just kidding here folks.
I couldn't find the engine spec's (official ones?). I'm going to call my dealer see if he has any more info.
Good luck and congrad's to those on the waiting list!
I couldn't find the engine spec's (official ones?). I'm going to call my dealer see if he has any more info.
Good luck and congrad's to those on the waiting list!
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If it looks anything like the pix on the Motoringfile site it's freaking great. And 280 HP should be enough right? Considering my R58 JCW cost about $39k then $45k isn't too bad either. I'll probably never even see one in person either because the GP is pretty much a track car which isn't what I need (which is a DD). But they look very cool IMO.
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They will probably offer them as an add on at additional cost most likely. I think I read somewhere they plan to offer six add ons as factory installed options. I am wondering what they will be.
It's a bit sad that mine is more powerful with only a tune, no other go-fast parts. However, I like the concept and some of the ideas behind it, though I expect a HUGE amount of the concept will be toned down in the final production design.
And the cost is very likely to be prohibitive for me anyways.
And the cost is very likely to be prohibitive for me anyways.
My lawyer say's it'll cost $35k just to start the divorce proceedings! Roll cage is awesome but could wreak havoc on the first responders when they try to peel me out, after they tip it back upright. Just kidding here folks.
I couldn't find the engine spec's (official ones?). I'm going to call my dealer see if he has any more info.
Good luck and congrad's to those on the waiting list!
I couldn't find the engine spec's (official ones?). I'm going to call my dealer see if he has any more info.
Good luck and congrad's to those on the waiting list!
If it looks anything like the pix on the Motoringfile site it's freaking great. And 280 HP should be enough right? Considering my R58 JCW cost about $39k then $45k isn't too bad either. I'll probably never even see one in person either because the GP is pretty much a track car which isn't what I need (which is a DD). But they look very cool IMO.
I was not aware that current owners got first shot at the GP until I read the above post! That said, my mini dealer assured me that I would get the first shot at one. I have not had a GP before, but I did purchase an R56 JCW and an F56 JCW from them and I really love both of them.
Since no one has said this yet I'll be the first- the GP3 concept is less "Cute-sy". They seem to get less "cute" each model year IMO. It reminds me a bit of the 80's Renault 5 Turbo.
FYI My dealer had no info on it. Maybe they'll match or beat the Ford Focus RS's 350hp #.
FYI My dealer had no info on it. Maybe they'll match or beat the Ford Focus RS's 350hp #.
Since no one has said this yet I'll be the first- the GP3 concept is less "Cute-sy". They seem to get less "cute" each model year IMO. It reminds me a bit of the 80's Renault 5 Turbo.
FYI My dealer had no info on it. Maybe they'll match or beat the Ford Focus RS's 350hp #.
FYI My dealer had no info on it. Maybe they'll match or beat the Ford Focus RS's 350hp #.
l could not agree with you more! It is definitely supposed to look “mean”, and right now if no changes are made, that’s going to be smoking! What the hell who need back seats? And who needs music! For me personally I have NEVER had anyone even sit in the back of my JCW, plus I never listen to music! I LOVE simply listening to the car!
I have been surfing on a cold winter day and having mini dreams. This video warned me up.
https://www.mini.co.uk/en_GB/home/mi...p-concept.html
https://www.mini.co.uk/en_GB/home/mi...p-concept.html
I would settle for a plain car wash for MITEY 2. The car washes will be busy Saturday and Sunday, but rain which is a heckava lot better than the snow we have now. Next week is supposed to be in the 60s! When I become cold and grumpy I have the GP video to warm me up! We are having the house remodeled and it is a mess. Bad timing too with the Arctic south the last few days. The mini has done great in the snow and I was pleasantly surprised with the traction with the A/S 3's!
Anyone with the expectation that the F56 GP will look like the concept design study prepare yourself for a big letdown. There have been mostly undisguised GP's testing on the ring for months. The only major exterior changes are wider fender flares to accommodate wider wheels and tires, a very large wing (similar to the GP design study), and larger exhaust. The changes are going to mainly be engine, trans, suspension, some aero, and wheels/tires.
Do NOT expect the car to have a roll cage. When you add a roll cage into the mix you are changing impact performance, crumple zones, airbag timing, seatbelt timing. They would need to crash dozens of cars to rework the car to meet safety regs. Frankly bmw is not going to approve the cost to crash multiple vehicles for a ~3000 car or less build especially on an outgoing model.
All signs are pointing to the GP receiving the new b48 engine and 8AT Aisin trans with torsen based LSD that is being used in the x2 m35i. This version of the b48 which is 302hp 332lbft has a larger turbo, lower compression pistons, possibly upgraded rods but that is not confirmed yet, upgraded crank, and larger main bearings.
Do NOT expect the car to have a roll cage. When you add a roll cage into the mix you are changing impact performance, crumple zones, airbag timing, seatbelt timing. They would need to crash dozens of cars to rework the car to meet safety regs. Frankly bmw is not going to approve the cost to crash multiple vehicles for a ~3000 car or less build especially on an outgoing model.
All signs are pointing to the GP receiving the new b48 engine and 8AT Aisin trans with torsen based LSD that is being used in the x2 m35i. This version of the b48 which is 302hp 332lbft has a larger turbo, lower compression pistons, possibly upgraded rods but that is not confirmed yet, upgraded crank, and larger main bearings.
Anyone with the expectation that the F56 GP will look like the concept design study prepare yourself for a big letdown. There have been mostly undisguised GP's testing on the ring for months. The only major exterior changes are wider fender flares to accommodate wider wheels and tires, a very large wing (similar to the GP design study), and larger exhaust. The changes are going to mainly be engine, trans, suspension, some aero, and wheels/tires.
Do NOT expect the car to have a roll cage. When you add a roll cage into the mix you are changing impact performance, crumple zones, airbag timing, seatbelt timing. They would need to crash dozens of cars to rework the car to meet safety regs. Frankly bmw is not going to approve the cost to crash multiple vehicles for a ~3000 car or less build especially on an outgoing model.
All signs are pointing to the GP receiving the new b48 engine and 8AT Aisin trans with torsen based LSD that is being used in the x2 m35i. This version of the b48 which is 302hp 332lbft has a larger turbo, lower compression pistons, possibly upgraded rods but that is not confirmed yet, upgraded crank, and larger main bearings.
Do NOT expect the car to have a roll cage. When you add a roll cage into the mix you are changing impact performance, crumple zones, airbag timing, seatbelt timing. They would need to crash dozens of cars to rework the car to meet safety regs. Frankly bmw is not going to approve the cost to crash multiple vehicles for a ~3000 car or less build especially on an outgoing model.
All signs are pointing to the GP receiving the new b48 engine and 8AT Aisin trans with torsen based LSD that is being used in the x2 m35i. This version of the b48 which is 302hp 332lbft has a larger turbo, lower compression pistons, possibly upgraded rods but that is not confirmed yet, upgraded crank, and larger main bearings.









