WTB: John Cooper Works Brakes Setup
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EastTN -
If you don't mind not having the pretty "red" calipers and brackets, the R56 (2006 to "around" 2013) rotors and calipers are the same as the R53 JCW brakes. Then I think Brembo calipers are the JCW brakes for the R56 cars. As I think I've learned around here.
The previous owner of my car (2005 S, JCW) installed the front R56 brakes only, left the standard R53 in the back. Street wise, very happy with the way things work. Haven't had it out to any "Auto-Cross" days...yet though.
I have the R56 rear set, just don't need it as of now.
Mike
If you don't mind not having the pretty "red" calipers and brackets, the R56 (2006 to "around" 2013) rotors and calipers are the same as the R53 JCW brakes. Then I think Brembo calipers are the JCW brakes for the R56 cars. As I think I've learned around here.
The previous owner of my car (2005 S, JCW) installed the front R56 brakes only, left the standard R53 in the back. Street wise, very happy with the way things work. Haven't had it out to any "Auto-Cross" days...yet though.
I have the R56 rear set, just don't need it as of now.
Mike
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Two options :
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...rakes-kit.html
Or
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...56-brakes.html
I put the 4 pot brembos on my R52
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...rakes-kit.html
Or
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...56-brakes.html
I put the 4 pot brembos on my R52
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The caliper carrier on 2nd gen brakes is a lot thinner and straighter than the thicker curved carrier of the JCW's. Even when painted red and labeled, it's easy to tell which is an actual JCW brake as this portion of the carrier is clearly visible behind the wheel. To most this wouldn't matter, but with your post referring to JCW a couple of times, it might.
If you do the "poor man's upgrade", make sure the calipers and carriers are from a 2nd gen S as the regular calipers will not fit the larger 294mm rotor without changing the caliper carrier, and getting the correct carriers can cost more than the calipers themselves.
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Thanks so much for all of the incredible information. Finding out I have a lot to learn. I'm actually going to hold out for authentic JCW.
I LOVE my car and just bought it 3 days ago. Looking forward to holding onto it for a long time, not to mention I'm a little OCD when
it comes to details. I appreciate all the replies and look forward talking with you guys down the road.
I LOVE my car and just bought it 3 days ago. Looking forward to holding onto it for a long time, not to mention I'm a little OCD when
it comes to details. I appreciate all the replies and look forward talking with you guys down the road.
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The vin sheet on my 06 factory JCW says it was fitted with sports suspension plus from the factory...no idea if it's the same as JCW suspension though ...I'm sure someone will know.
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Dealer installed back in the day I think up til ~2006 ish. Check for the JCW stickers and the red springs.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...uspension.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...uspension.html
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BTW, does anyone know what the "plus" really adds? I've never been able to find a description of what's different from the regular sports suspension.
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I wondered that also, I always heard it was better dampening. "plus" == more sportiness
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You may also want to keep an eye out at ALLMAG Aito parts in Tampa. They salvage MINIs and seem to get some rare parts more regularly than the forums. Also don’t forget to join the Facebook buy sell trade groups.
I think ALLMAG had a OE JCW brake kit a couple months ago.
Right there is a rare R53 JCW carbon wing in the Facebook groups for a decent price....
I think ALLMAG had a OE JCW brake kit a couple months ago.
Right there is a rare R53 JCW carbon wing in the Facebook groups for a decent price....
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Yep.
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