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Old 06-24-2016, 12:38 PM
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Value this JCW, please

Hope this isn't against forum rules. I'm contemplating selling my wife's 2005 JCW. Everything was installed at the dealer when the car was new. The car is electric blue with white top (sunroof) and only has 24,000 miles. It is completely original with black/blue leatherette interior. The car has been her "nice weather" car and has never been driven in snow or salt or even rain. Always in a garage when not being driven. The only time it gets wet is when I hand wash it (its never been to a car wash, either). Never left out in the sun for hours at any time in its life. This car has the dealer-installed JCW kit from before you were able order them from the factory and I have the certificate of authenticity. Also the JCW lowering springs. Still has the original tires with lots of tread left. This is about as close to a like-new 2005 JCW car as you can find, I think. This Mini is 100% factory original with no aftermarket add-ons or doo dads. No climate control--- didn't want the extra weight and complexity. This is the kind of car I would love to find if I were looking for a used JCW. I don't think you'll find one that's received more pampering.

But I'm having a hard time ascertaining a value since JCWs are unusual to begin with (especially here in the Midwest) but pampered, lady-driven, 12 year old JCWs with only 24k miles are extremely rare, in my experience. Can anyone offer advice about how to value this car? Or where to potentially market it?

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Old 06-24-2016, 01:12 PM
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There is a classified section here called the Marketplace, would put qualified buyers eyeballs on it instead of tire kickers. Start with Blue book or Black book values and add in the JCW premium. Some people are unrealistic in price and the market will let you know by not getting any offers.

I'd be interested if VW clears up its buyback deal next week. It would freak my wife out as her new mini on the way is the same color combo, blue\white. GL with sale.
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Old 06-24-2016, 01:45 PM
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I'm not sure about the value, but you can definitely add a premium to any valuation from KBB, Edmunds, etc., on top of a JCW premium. The MINI is an enthusiasts car and the '05 and '06 are preferred when looking for a 1st generation. If you're not in a rush to sell the car, someone will pay the extra money for the low miles and condition. For any potential buyer that tells you otherwise, there are plenty of other lower condition cars out there for them.
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:33 PM
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I am going to disagree with the majority here. It's just a car with low miles. And it is 12 years old. (I've owned a Justa, a JCW and a S. Selling my JCW was a pain. No one appreciated the JCW options or the aftermarket mods and tunes. I sold my Justa more easily.)

MINI dealers don't want that car on their lot. It distracts from the F56 line. Carmax doesn't normally sell cars of that age, but might make an exception with the low miles.

The point is you can use most any of the available pricing resources for an "S" of that caliber and then tack on a reasonable premium for the JCW kit.

Good Luck.
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:41 AM
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Last 7 of VIN for seeing build options?
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Old 06-27-2016, 04:36 PM
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Based on what I've seen here in the PNW you could probably ask $12k for it, but someone won't give you that much. Here it would probably sell for something between $8.5k and $9.5k. Though hard to tell without knowing all the options, and seeing more / better photos of it.
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:39 AM
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the 06 have a little premium over the 5's due to factory installed option. That said those crazy low miles would cost a minimum of 10k here on the east coast.

100k mile 06 jcw's go for 8500, all 2 of them I found when trying to buy one
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Old 07-03-2016, 09:07 AM
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About 8 months ago I bought my '06 Red/Blk JCW with all options except sunroof and the only mods were the sport link and the M7 strut brace. It had 55k miles. I bought it in Dallas and paid $10k. My mini mechanic here in SoCal thought that was a good price. Hope that helps.
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Old 07-03-2016, 12:28 PM
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I paid $9000 for an fJCW with 64k and a few minor issues in the NW. I considered it a good deal.

With those low miles, you might consider bringatrailer. My vehicle broker found a couple R53s in showroom condition there while I was looking for mine. They seem to cater to rare or unusually good condition older cars.
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Old 07-03-2016, 12:44 PM
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Idk about what it's worth but that car is beautiful! You have taken seriously good care of it! On another note, do tires even last that long? They're approximately 11 years old...
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:15 AM
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paid 8500 for my 03 with 120k miles and a very detailed service record alongside quite a few upgrades and every option except for the moonroof.
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Old 08-23-2016, 02:48 PM
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Like someone else posted, it's a car. It depreciates, even with low mileage. I probably wouldn't pay more than $8-10k depending on options. Sorry if that's not what you were looking for...
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:52 PM
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In the SF Bay Area, that car would go for at least $12k. Just saw a convertible JCW, ~50k miles listed (doesn't mean it will sell for that much), for $17k. Depends a lot on your area.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:34 AM
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I just paid $17,000 for a 2006 jcw with 10,000 miles. Mine is heavily optioned. I know I over paid a bit but has an aftermarket warranty until 2021 or 100,000 miles. There is always someone like me out there that will pay for exactly what they want.
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Old 08-26-2016, 09:17 AM
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I just paid $17,000 for a 2006 jcw with 10,000 miles. Mine is heavily optioned. I know I over paid a bit but has an aftermarket warranty until 2021 or 100,000 miles. There is always someone like me out there that will pay for exactly what they want.
I don't think you overpaid considering the warranty too
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:56 PM
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Wasnt there a real nice maxed out gen 1 limited edition recently for 12500

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-for-sale.html
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Old 08-26-2016, 06:58 PM
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Throw the $3500 warranty into the mix and it's close. And, I love my color and the wheels, I love my wheels.
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Old 08-27-2016, 05:55 AM
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Hey 06mintmini its all good nice catch,,,,, just thought about the one I put up, but im too into turbos now sadly,,,, Gen1 will always be more true
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Old 02-16-2017, 06:40 PM
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I just paid $17,000 for a 2006 jcw with 10,000 miles. Mine is heavily optioned. I know I over paid a bit but has an aftermarket warranty until 2021 or 100,000 miles. There is always someone like me out there that will pay for exactly what they want.
I was going through old threads. When I was looking I contacted this guy and made him an offer but could not come to an agreement. Bought my red vert instead. Guy ended up selling the car for $12,500, which is less than what I offered him. Five months and $4500 in the hole for him.

Yes there may be somebody out there willing to pay premium money for a car but connecting you the seller to that type of buyer just does not happen that much.
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:13 AM
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Holy Hell! $12,500!
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:44 PM
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I buy and sell Mini Coopers all the time. The chances of finding someone willing to pay that much for an old car, is really not realistic, especially when the person could put a healthy down payment on a new one with no miles JCW car and have a fairly low payment on it.
It will take some kind of addict, with a wallet and no desire to buy a new and re-sellable car. It is not like these have appreciated to a level that commands these dollars.
I buy cars like this for under $4K (dealer auctions) and I only get a few $K over that at most (after I bring them up to a decent level). I have customers all the time, buying Minis and used car buyers most often want more and want to give you less. Private sellers usually have a reason to sell a car and that is your only real advantage.
With the low miles, it is better than average, but still not that much better, as most addicts would tear them apart to make them special for them, therefore the low miles is not the charm for them.

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Old 02-17-2017, 03:47 PM
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Its like the 06 GPs. Would I like one? Yes, but I am not going to pay $20k for one. I am not aware of any modern Minis being on a high-end auction, its not like a GP is a Ford GT.
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Old 02-19-2017, 10:23 AM
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" ...its not like a GP is a Ford GT"
However, there are more than 10 times more Ford GT's in the U.S. than 2006 MINI GP's. Yes, the Ford GT is much faster, better looking and more than 10 times more expensive...but how many of us can afford one? Even the insurance and taxes would be astronomical.
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Old 02-19-2017, 03:22 PM
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For me BMW just did not do enough to make the GP special with the minimal HP boost that they gave the car. When they came out with the BMW 1M they increased the HP by a little over 10% (335 1M vs 300 for the 135i)). The point of this thread reposting was people overpaying for a car.

I have the money but I am not going to pay $20k for a GP. I want to drive my car, not park it in a garage and hope for the price to go up.
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Old 02-21-2017, 04:42 AM
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the 1M and 135i are almost identical, you can factory bump the 135i up to 1m HP, or lots more with aftermarket. The difference was insignificant enough that I did not consider the 1M and still own my 135i
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