I ordered the JCW inlet tube through Cincinatti MINI, will be here next week or the week after from AG Stock... He said around 110.00 to 120.00 bucks.
If it doesn't fit, which think it will, I will most definitely get the Alta tube then because their design is real nice too

STAT TUNED !!!!! (photos and install soon as I can)

Cheers,
Sam

 

good news, i'll be waiting

 

For sure the new 09 JCW inlet hose is very different and it WILL require some retooling on our part. But we think we can make one that works on both old and new no problem. Its just our current inlet hose will NOT work because of the crank case vent hose change. More to come soon!

 

so Alta is planning to stock the JCW inlet tube ?? Or Youre redesigning your own inlet tube for the '09 cars.. hmmm either way, I'm wondering if it's so different why some folks have been able to get it to fit no problem, if they are JCW equipped or order a blank MAF shroud,..

Either way, will be talking to Adam soon to order the accompanying Alta parts

 

Sam,

I get what Adam means now. The ALTA inlet pipe comes without breather hose unlike us buying the factory hose to fit to our 'stock' cars. So the joint between pipe and breather IS different and so the existing ALTA pipe cannot be fitted to 09 Factory works cars.

 

Ahh ok so my incoming JCW inlet tube will still fit my 2007 r56 JCW ..

 

TRUE! I am NOT sure the 09 JCW hose will fit the 2007-08 cars either. But Jef and I are still working on that!

 

once you get it installed please share pictures and information on where and how much it costs to order it

 

Yes, we are going to have a new hose for the 09 JCW. This is different than the JCW packaged 07/08 cars. That might be where the confusion lays.

Bingo!

If you have an 09 JCW hose that you are going to fit to your 07 JCW packaged car, then it may not fit. But do let us know what you find.

 

Talked to my dealer today - They were SUPPOSED to have the JCW Inlet tube shipped in at noon, BUT the truck driver switched the shipments and so my inlet tube is at another dealer (along with a bunch of their other stock).
So the jcw inlet tube will be there monday. Still though, that is PRETTY fast, especially because they had to order it from AG stock- which means, I ordered on Tuesday, and it is (would have been) at dealer today, Friday. Pretty QUick!

Total comes to about 115.00 (including tax).

My only misgivings lie in whether or not it will work well with the Alta boost tubes. I am doing those for sure, but you know how it goes, you don't want to mix and match too many parts and then have parts that DO NOT compliment each other... If you know what I mean.

I haven't seen any measurements comparing the JCW inlet to the Alta inlet tube, so I don't know if there's any difference in the bore of the inside, or the bottleneck, etc. Maybe the '09 JCW Inlet Tube still has a bottleneck but just is bigger ??
It does look a little straighter.
Hmm...

Japper/Benjamin, either of you have the ALta Boost tubes installed with it ??
You guys still think the jcw tube makes a difference ??

THANKS !!!

 

Funny you should ask as my ALTA Boost Tubes got delivered 30 mins ago

I got the PITA torx retaining screw out of the OEM muffler last night in readiness for a quick install of the ALTA tubes later tonight.

I don't think the JCW Factory inlet pipe is as big as the ALTA, but it sure makes a noticeable improvement. Now 4-5 guys in UK have this fitted and all are VERY happy with it

 

Excellent My apprehension is smoothing over.

Let me know ASAP after you get the boost tubes installed, if your seat-of-the-pants "difference" goes up further from there...

-By the way, I'll be ordering the boost tubes soon too, do I need to go buy a special torx screw JUST for that piece? I have some metric and US bits, enough at least to swap intakes.. Talk to you soon, Thanks again !!

 

That is my favorite part of the install!

 

You're just sadistic

 

I'll check again but IIRC it's a T25 torx head screw.

Easist way i found to get at this was. Unscrew the header tank retaining screw and push the tank over the turbo. Then using a torch to see and a T25 screwdriver access from top and you have just enough room to get at it.

Scraped knuckes / fingers are mandatory

 

Had as about fun as you when fitting my Forge Motor Sport hose!

 

The torx screw was a piece of cake compared to trying to fit a f**king hose that's 1 - 1/2" too short I am fizzing...........big style, just wasted a hour trying to fit this bloody thing. Goes on turbo and will not stay on IC at all. Put it on IC and it's 1 - 1 1/2" too short. I researched this part heavily and after hearing of this part being too short on EU cars had reasurance from both ALTA and Lohen. Now i have to faff about to get the OEN one back on.

Ben,

Did the Forge one fit OK.

Adam,

I know you're a top guy, but i need assistance here, becaused i really am fizzing.

C.

 

OK, so i got up early this morning all refreshed and raring to go. With a clear head i finally managed to get this PITA pipe on . The pipe is the same length as OEM, but because it's a bigger dia. when passing some of the other hoses behind the radiator that it pushes on these and makes fitting tricky. If it was a wee bit longer this would ease things. The bottom connection to the IC is also very tight especially when working car on axle stands. On ramps this would help greatly. Contrary to the instructions supplied i found it easier to fit the pipe to the IC first and then once that was tight, pull the turbo end on and tighten up clip with other hand while pulling the pipe on with the other.

Adam, top quality pipes and clips and packaging, just my thoughts to share and suggestions on how to make installation easier

 

Hows your car performing with the new tubes Japper?

 

Forge fitted fine, I fitted mine on axle stands as well getting the jubilee clip undone and done up again at the intercooler end is the seconded biggest PITA the torx F**ked me off, I was shouting a lot at my car! I found unclipping some of ancillary tubes down the back of the radiator gave me some more room. But these things are never meant to be easy! Especially when your too inpatient to let the turbo and the car cool down.

 

If you think the hotside tube is a PITA, you should try the ALTA cold side one . My hands are rather scratched to bits. Total time to fit both pipes around 4 hours i guess.

Found that the use of a hairdryer and vaseline helped greatly in getting the boost tube on the throttle body

 

Hi Kev,

I test drove with just the hot side tube on and the volume level had increased slightly, performance seemed better up top but torque down low seemed to be back to before i put the JCW factory inlet pipe on. Test drove a second time and it was getting better as the ECU needed time to adjust. Then i fitted the cold side pipe and had a short test drive and the volume was a little 'deeper' again ( just right ) and the revs just fly now. Had visitors come to stay minutes after this test drive, so won't get another chance to play until Monday.

Will update this post later next week with pics too.

 

Japper did you remove the sound generator as well?

 

Nope, leaving everything stock looking. I even went to the trouble of vinyl tape wrapping fully both boost tubes to cover up the ALTA logo's.............well the hot side one is printed upside down

 

i just found this video that i saw a long time ago from audizine. this video shows an OEM rubber turbo inlet tube collapsing because of the suction of the turbo. its pretty crazy to think that the oem tube would just COLLAPSE like that. id imagine that it would really choke the turbo intake and restrict power.

i havnt checked out the JCW turbo inlet pipe, but i hope its made out of a hard plastic or at least some kind of reinforced rubber. otherwise, i would suspect that it would be subject to the same kind of collapse.

http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/intake.mpg

because of this, i upgraded the oem from this:



to this