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I don't know if there is anything 'documented' (yet). What I was refering to is this comment (my bolding):
I (and probably everyone else) just want to hear what kind of threats were made and all the details about that. If PU is threatening customers because they are speaking up and voicing their opinions then something needs to be done about that... like banned from the board and shunned by the entire MINI community.

 

We have contracted our kit to be produced with significant modifications as designed by Uber, over what we consider to be the best visual aero-dynamics kit on the market. Our concerns were integrity of the components themseleves, and fitment. We have spent thousands to pay for the mold modifications along with the design changes Uber thought necessary. It really is too bad we seem to be the kicking horse for all of you, when we are continually striving to produce components that are unique and of world class standards. It seems most of you would prefer we do what all the other companies do, and simply re-manufacture each others product. Well we wont do that, and when I founded the company, it was to bring unique and world class esthetic and performance products to the market for my fellow mini-cooper enthusiasts world wide.
One of the most overlooked element here, is our kit comes to you with a show car quality painted finish, with hand rubbed clear coat. Also, the price includes all the various import duties, taxes, international shipping costs here to the states, shop labour, paint materials, repackaging, and, oh yes , the price also includes shipping to your residence, ready to install........
If you are all looking for companies that continualy manufacture mediocre and uninteresting product, you have a really great selection to choose from, and we are not the company for you.
I am sorry we do not measure up to your expectations.
Sir Patrick, owner

 

So, is your kit visually-identical to the Konigseder kit, then? It's kind of snarky of you not to have at least mentioned them in your description, considering that you're using their own picture to promote your kit (with the exception of retouching the photograph to remove the "Konigseder" logo from the car's flanks).

 

I have yet to see any "world class" products come from you guys.

A pulley thats identical to every other pulley on the market, besides using a premium metal that wasnt needed to jack the price.

A spoiler thats identical to what FBT is already offering.

You sell a Gorilla lug wrench with a PU sticker on it.

Clearly rebadged wheels that come from mediocre companies to begin with.

A Madness intake, a rebadged suspension setup, now a bodykit that has been on the market for years is under the PU name.

Why not take your skills and the money that you seem to throw around so poorly and have a new bodykit made that flows well with the MINI's lines?

$50 valve stems? C'mon, thats just plain stupid. $45 for your "badges" (decals)? Most companies are glad to send out free decals as a way to advertise for themselves, but not you. You charge for them. I can't see PU ever getting to the tuner status of a company like M7 or Alta.

Where are the world class products?

 

the world class products are part of their world class service, world class spelling, and derives from their world class art backround from PaloUber, the world class contemporary artist.

If you want world class... you gotta pay world class prices

Sincerely,
Sir Glen, a consumer

 

I dont know what the hell that stuff is, but it isnt art. Van Gogh is art. Picasso is art. Palo Uber looks like he tripped and fell with a bucket of paint and it all just happened to land on a canvas.

If I wanted 3 colors of paint smeared on a piece of canvas, i'd let a 5 year old do it.

Sure, I can understand world class prices for world class products, but all i've seen from PaloUber is sub par products at world class prices.

 

Maybe I'm reading it wrong , but does this mean that there are design differences in your kit? That was the whole reason i started this thread....I know there arent fitment issues with the original but would love to see what your kit looks like. I personally know someone with this kit(the real one) installed on his show car....and the fitment was immaculate....he did incredibly well on his show scene, so if you topped that kit I'm dying to see pics of what your re-edited design looks like.

My other question was never answered though....you stated that your exhaust was PICTURED in that pic.....is that true?

In terms of price....The site i posted includes import duties, taxes, international shipping costs, and packaging etc.... So if anyone can find a paintjob (with whatever special clear coat you want) under $3000, you can save a ton of money. (who couldnt find a paintjob for less than 3000 on some arches and two bumpers).

So it seems we have two options:

-Konigseder kit: Great fitment, good quality material and finish...$4000+paintjob (probably less than $1000)= about $5000

-PU kit: Presumably Great fitment and quality, painted for $7000

$2000 can get you a nice set of wheels or maybe coilovers

 

But you forgot to mention the "Hand Rubbed Clear Coat" with alot of Vaseline probably

 

Basically they wrote a bigass post and they didn't even answer the questions, hooray! TWO THUMBS UP YEAH!

 

Sir Patrick,

Can you please elaborate more and explain the "significant modifications as designed by Uber". Was the original Kit not designed correctly to fit the MINI? And again, where are the "design changes Uber thought necessary" to bring it to a "World Class" status?

I suggest that you explain more who you mean by that or at least what products are you talking about when you say that "It seems most of you would prefer we do what all the other companies do, and simply re-manufacture each others product". I suggest that next time you provide a picture of your own, at least, for that "modified kit" on a PU car before making such statements. Posting a picture on your site with a Photo Shop of it and expecting the consumers to accept that it is one of a kind is a NO NO

I would expect from a company like PU to come up with a "new design" for my hard earned $$$ and not only re-sell an available kit. If you really claim that PU has "Artistic Taste" then he would refuse to re-manufacture anything out there on the market and only demand the best in new product designs and quality. I suggest that you look for those "mediocre" companies for some innovations and honesty in presentation. Don't show me a shiny Nickel and charge me a Dollar for it, we are not stupid here. I think most members that posted on this thread don't think that this kit is for them, well the one from PU for that matter, and their response was not to show that "they cannot afford it so they can bash it" method, but rather to properly inform other members on this thread of the availability of another similar, if not same, product for much less and prevent them from walking in a potential "scam".

 

Sir(s) ca$per and Rallymini - you make good points!

Sir PGT

 

Having never purchased any of your products and not following the production of body kits anyway, I am not part of the original PU-bashing posts under this topic; however, it is worth noting that "visual aero-dynamics kit" is a marketroid nonsense phrase. I would point that out no matter how beloved the vendor who had posted it.

 

!!!!!

 

Just in case the questions are getting lost in all the posts...here are the questions i have seen asked

• Does your kit look different than the Koniseder?
  • If yes to the above question how so? Pics?
• You state on your site that the exhaust pictured is your exhaust, is that even true or is it a lie?
  • This picture was around before PU offered exhausts
  • The company who designed the kit made that exhaust
• Was the original kit not designed properly to fit? What mods were needed?
  • Many other people havent had trouble fitting the original flawlessly.
• How expensive is the "show car quality painted finish with rubbed clearcoat" ?
  • You mention other costs, but both of the companies discussed must pay those costs.
• You seem to imply that your company is less mediocre and more world class than others. What do you consider to make your company more world class?
• And strcitly because I'm an art major with plenty of art history under my belt, so this struck curiosity. You state "[SIZE=3][SIZE=3]he is considered to be one of the greatest living abstract expressionists" I talked to a few of my teachers (PHD's in modern/contemporary art, currently teaching my Abstract Expressionist ) and they hadnt heard of him. I tried searching for more info online and couldnt find any. Do you have anymore info as I'm very interested....his work looks a lot like a rothko which is impressive Thanks....that was just my own question
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There are many other questions about your other products or your marketing attempts...but the above are the questions pertaining to the thread topic.

 

Wasn't meant as a knock on you guys. Just meant that you didn't make up lies about who made the product for you. Still like your stuff, especially the CF.

Everything else aside, that body kit is ugly anyways lol...

 

Can I be Lord goin440 instead of Sir?

 

No, I was asking what the max wheel/tire size was for the MiniSpare flares on the black car. I would never pimp out a MINI with the Uber flares.

 

Only if, in fact, vengeance is yours. Cuz we all know that "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord."

So you have to at least say that.

 

Can someone please explain the need to bash Palo Uber? Most of the people posting here would not even think of installing any body kit on there Mini's yet they feel the need to post how they think this one is so overpriced.

Next time you are bored and feel like bashing, take your Mini for a drive instead of wasting bandwidth here

 

Regardless of whether someone wants to install this body kit (or anything else PU makes) or not, doesn't everyone on this board have the right to question the honesty and claims of any and all vendors? As well as just discuss (which very well might include opinions that aren't the same as yours) the various MINI vendors in general?

Sure, there is bashing of PU and/or their products but so what. They won't speak for themselves to try and clear any of this up. Yes, someone from PU posted above but that was basically a bunch of rambling BS that didn't really answer the questions Rally posted. If you're that concerned with PU getting bashed or talked badly about then stay out of this or any other threads that question their products, the origin of these products or the ridiculous claims they make about many of their products. Please take your Mini with its $700 titanium pulley for a drive instead of wasting bandwidth here.

 

Oh...ouch!
Dang, chip, leave the guy a little dignity, ok?

Oh, and Palu Uber.... in case you hadn't noticed, MINIs aren't Furraris. Most of us are not "boutique" folks.
Very few MINI owners are likely to blow $100K on an impulse Rodeo Drive shopping trip, or buy the latest/greatest $1000 driving shoe.

Someone didn't do their marketing homework.

 

I just think we need to stop the bashing when most people here have never even dealt with this company. The see a new vendor and beat up everything they have to offer.

And to the pulley, let me say this;

Some people wear a Timex to tell time others wear a Rolex. They both do the same thing. But yet some how Rolex is able to sell watch at 10 times the cost. How? Why?

I went with the Rolex of pulley's IMO.

 

That example is rediculous. Rolex is an old company which has had a history of producing exceptional time pieces of immense quality. It has been around and made a name of itself which allows it to charge the prices it does. The same goes for any other exceptional designer company. Tag Heuyer, Patec Philipe, Gorgio Armani, etc... PU has done nothing except make unfounded claims about how "revoluionary" their products are when in reality they are just ripoffs of other companies work.

 

And if ya don't want your blood pressure jacked up, I'd suggest ya avoid uber topics.