has anyone hear of veil coating? apparently when applied to reflective surfaces it can nearly cut detection distance in half.

http://www.1-radar-laser-jammers-det...ng/details.php

 

Why dont you ask that question here and see what the experts might say. They probably know far more about it than the average consumer.

 

I'm reminded of the old adage...

"If it sounds too good to be true - it probably is."

Let us know what Joe Law says, though.

 

Maybe just install a series of mirrors that will refract the laser back to the tailgater behind you

 

Plain and simple

Doesn't work...

Watch this episode....

MYTHBUSTERS - Beat the Radar Detector

 

I heard that it's just a bunch of BS...

 

Well the links not working but RADAR and LIDAR are two different things.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/m...ide/index.html

Of course it may be lillegal to coat certain items on the front of your car and welll the best way to avoid a ticket is obey the law

 

Theoretically, this would work.

Since lidar needs a reflective surface to bounce off of for an accurate reading, police are trained to aim the laser at shiny/reflective parts of the front of the car. For most vehicles, this is the front plate and the headlights. If you were to coat these reflective points with a light absorbing material (or even just made them darker [tinting headlights for example]), you would theoretically reduce the cars suceptability to lidar.

The other option to defeat lidar is laser jammers. These instruments use light transmitters which are designed to send back a conflicting signal to the laser detector which effectivley makes it impossible for them to get a readig off your car. The light transmitters are usually located very close to the points a greatest light reflectivity because the radar beam doesn;t diffuse as much as it travels (at 500 ft from the gun, the laser beam is only 18" in diameter) to send the signal back in the same area as the original laser. The other benefit of these laser jammers is that the light emitters also work as laser detectors. Since the leam of light from a laser is so small, most windshield mounted detectors (no matter how good) will not alert, unless they catch some reflection from the laser beam (by this point, the cop would most likeley have already gotten your speed).

Because of the benefits from an active laser jammer over the laser absorbant material, It is probably better to spend the extra $300 to $400 on a jammer and have the added layer of security offered by a jammer.

On to the comment about radar jamming from mythbusters.

While some of the stuff mythbusters does is grounded in actual science, most of their program makes major errors and leaves key things out. It is afterall a show for entertainment, and not an actual research product.

That being said, products that advertise themselves as being "radar jammers" (particularly units from Rocky Mountain Radar) are not actually real, and don't actually work. In independent tests, the jammers failed to keep radar guns from alerting 100% of the time (on X, K, and Ka bands). Their advertising claims are misleading and deceptive. Also, think about this. It is against FCC regulations to own and operate a radar jammer anywhere in the US. How could a US based company legaly manufacture, advertise, and sell these units anywhere if they are illegal?

You best bet for avoiding tickets would be to do the speed limit, but avoiding that, you should get a good radar/ laser detector as well as a laser jammer. Another technique to avoiding tickets is to wait for someone who is speeding to get ahead of you, and to follow him about a half mile back. With the radar detector on, you will recieve an alert and be able to slow down should a cop try and get the speed of the person in front of you. Hardly a fool proof plan, but it does work.

Sorry this post was so long, but there was alot of misinformation floating around...

 

It's just spray on snake-oil.

 

You may want to check Cali's laws. They DO ban both radar and laser jammers.

http://www.1-radar-laser-jammers-det...rt/FAQs/08.php


But then again, why would you need any of these if you obey the law? Or are you one of those few selected elite that are above the law?

 

Save the speech we don't need it. You know you break the law every day when driving so don't act like you don't. Smartass. 'Nuff said.

P.S.: Cops aren't above the law and they break the very laws they enforce every day. So don't give me that shyt. I'm tired of it.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure Cali one of the few, if not the only, state to BAN LASER jammers. Radar Jammers however are illegal everywhere in the US.

 

Wow... calm down. No need to get up in my internet-face and huff-y-puff.

The point was this: the best way to avoid getting busted, is not to give them any reason to bust you.

You got me. I speed. I'm not above the law. I'm also prepared for the consequences should I get caught breaking the law.

What I DON'T like is people who think up things to avoid getting caught, so they can evade the law. People who think they can drive fast and take chances on the same roads I drive on, but do things to their vehicle to avoid the law.

I just have a theory that those who try to evade the law... pretty much have the same mind set of being "above the law" too. The law is there for a reason, and whether or not you agree with it, we all have to abide by it.

So, go get yourself a cup of coffee, take a deep breath, and put away your anger. There's no need for it.

 

I've used them as rabbit (as in greyhound racing). Of course, if a cop is following without using his radar and is pacing you, guess who will get pulled over?
Don't waste your money on the clear spray paint. The camera will still be able to read the plate. The plastic fresnel lens covers look like the ticket (great pun eh?). But it just announces to all that you drive fast.

 

If you're driving above the speed limit and you see a LEO, you slow down, right? Thus doing something to avoid getting caught.
He used his eyes to catch you, you use your eyes to avoid being caught.

If LEO ups the ante by using technology, why is it wrong to 'fight fire with fire'? No sense bringing a knife to a (radar) gun fight.

 

Good Point. But do people (or I) slow down to avoid getting caught, or because they become more aware that they are doing something wrong?

That's more along a philosphical/psycological discussion that would take the thread OT.

I think the LEO uped their ante because they need proof of violation, not because it made catching people easier. The times have changed a bit and a LEO's word doesn't mean much anymore.

But Chuck Norris would always win with a knife up against a gun. Why can't I?

 

I am not above the law in fact I grew up under it with a cop as a father. When I look at the OP it doesnt say i plan on using it. I was just wondering the validity of such a product. Thank you for your responces, and your opinions.

 

My apologies: Me saying "Or are you one of those few selected elite that are above the law?" was a bit on the sarcastic side, and albeit my choice of humor, wasn't the most constructive or best thing to say on the internet since you a) don't know me and b) can't hear the inflection in my voice.

It was out of line.

 

It's been proven that practically 99% of the 'quick fix' beat-the-radar/laser solutions make little or no difference, and the ones with any measurable success are either very expensive or patently illegal.

The most success one can have is complete awareness of one's surroundings, a sharp eye and common sense. If one is weaving in and out of traffic lanes and flying past other cars at considerably higher speeds, you stand out and are a much easier target. Looking far ahead in the traffic flow to see brake lights coming on at a certain spot usually can mean Da Law is nearby. That disabled car on the side of the road with it's trunk open might be the local constabulary. The list goes on.

Likewise, using some of the 'solutions' can often result in an escalation of charges or even a traffic charge when there might have only been a warning if the officer finds them in use at the time.

What I never see to find is someone willing to fit their car with whatever 'beat the rap' item or fix and then go bombing through an obvious speed trap at some stupid speed to 'test' it. I wonder why?