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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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MSFITOY- come on, finish this spoiler project already so you can start
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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If I drive all the way to the Dragon to see it, I want to be able to drive home with one
Well if you're that desperate, anything's for sale at the right price Just don't make me an offer for Msfitoy that I can't refuse

Ken...I now have the "Krell 33000 ID Monster" up and and running Nothing can stop me now

Anyone have a good source for the complete Mini Cooper S surface math data?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Well if you're that desperate, anything's for sale at the right price Just don't make me an offer for Msfitoy that I can't refuse

Ken...I now have the "Krell 33000 ID Monster" up and and running Nothing can stop me now

Anyone have a good source for the complete Mini Cooper S surface math data?
I have seen this monster in action all I can say is
 
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Ken...I now have the "Krell 33000 ID Monster" up and and running Nothing can stop me now

sid- coool!!!
 
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Anyone have a good source for the complete Mini Cooper S surface math data?
I have been looking forever so that i could test out the front lip i have designed in a virtual test in conjuction with Will. We both looked all over, and the only ones we could find costed $$$$$ but looked absolutely perfect.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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I have been looking forever so that i could test out the front lip i have designed in a virtual test in conjuction with Will. We both looked all over, and the only ones we could find costed $$$$$ but looked absolutely perfect.
Unfortunately, "Looks perfect" maybe good enough for CFD but not for manufacturing. For me to design a part to be mated to OEM surfaces, the base data must be absolutely accurate (preferably class A)...ie, precisely scanned or actual OEM math data. Do they mention how the data was obtained?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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Ok I might be out of the loop on this one, or I have too much in my head with our office and gallery. What it the Dragon deal?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Unfortunately, "Looks perfect" maybe good enough for CFD but not for manufacturing. For me to design a part to be mated to OEM surfaces, the base data must be absolutely accurate (preferably class A)...ie, precisely scanned or actual OEM math data. Do they mention how the data was obtained?
Most of them are models in conjunction with 3DSMax, etc. Some looked ok, some looked veyr much off, hit or miss. Might be time to contact MINIUSA. heh
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Ok I might be out of the loop on this one, or I have too much in my head with our office and gallery. What it the Dragon deal?
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...7&postcount=71 What do you mean? You can see the wing at the Dragon...
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Anyone have a good source for the complete Mini Cooper S surface math data?
Perhaps you could locate/rent a digitizer and create your own model?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Perhaps you could locate/rent a digitizer and create your own model?
Already have a connection to do just that...just thought I'd poke around and maybe save the expense of scanning.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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The beauty of doing it yourself is that you determine the resolution so you get exactly what you want.

And I think that anyone who is developing a better "snorkle" would need that data as well.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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sorry but what's the Dragon?? I don't understand. Is it an event somewhere? Again, my apologies but I don't get it.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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sorry but what's the Dragon?? I don't understand. Is it an event somewhere? Again, my apologies but I don't get it.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/

Look at the main page.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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From the sound of it, it would probably be cheeper to scan it yourself than buy a scan from somebody else...

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Already have a connection to do just that...just thought I'd poke around and maybe save the expense of scanning.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Wow!!! that really sounds like fun. But if FC Barcelona makes it to the Champions league final in Paris I have to go the Air France way.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Those of you going to the Dragon, take some spy pics of the Spoiler for those of that can't make it!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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From the sound of it, it would probably be cheeper to scan it yourself than buy a scan from somebody else...
You may have a great point there...
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 02///MCS
Those of you going to the Dragon, take some spy pics of the Spoiler for those of that can't make it!
Oh don't worry...There will be plenty images of this wing
 
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Oh don't worry...There will be plenty images of this wing
I'll definitely have pics of this wing! I've been thinking about getting the Aero wing, but this one has more of my interest now, especially if CF!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Sid, i figure this looks nothing like yours....but check it out



 
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Sid, i figure this looks nothing like yours....but check it out



Interesting Vortex generators...we (while at Ford) did vortex testing back in 90's and found them effective but only in specific areas and density. Specifically, at the rear header where air would delaminate and cause drag. In Mini's case, there is no rear header and the best way to minimize drag is to create a sharp dissruption of airflow at the trailing edge at the rear. I'm afraid this won't very functional in this particular execution... Who sells this?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Interesting Vortex generators...we (while at Ford) did vortex testing back in 90's and found them effective but only in specific areas and density. I'm afraid that this is a "me too" design to impress the Evo crowd...not very functional in this application Who sells this?
It's made by garbino. I had assumed it was exactly what you said, an un-functional EVO look spoiler. Just thought it was a nice bump for this thread
 
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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this project is interesting.... have to put this in the subscribed threads
 
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Sid, i figure this looks nothing like yours....but check it out
I hope not.
 
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