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Old 11-24-2007, 08:42 PM
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Nate, I am making fun of you.
Huh?? What..Where

I love a good laugh at my expense
 
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:53 PM
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Huh?? What..Where

I love a good laugh at my expense
Not right now. But I reserve the right for any future forum verbal abuse... Me and the California Fire Chiefs Association... and the guys who telimarket for the California Sheriffs...
 
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Not right now. But I reserve the right for any future forum verbal abuse... Me and the California Fire Chiefs Association... and the guys who telimarket for the California Sheriffs...
Dang those guy's are annoying aren't they .
 
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Dang those guy's are annoying aren't they .
Yes they are. But they do have an amazing talent for calling when I am either having sex, or eating dinner... it is freakish, really...
 
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Originally Posted by gnatster
I'm not selling them so I don't need to make unfounded claims. Besides, the main goal was bling and to do them better then Sid.
Regardless you need to make a claim (its the NAM thing to do!!) so half the community can "hump your leg" and so that the other half is out searching the junkyards for these power adders .

Out doing SID is a very worthy goal!! and you have done just that

sorry Sid.
 
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:45 AM
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But they do have an amazing talent for calling when I am either having sex, or eating dinner...
Luckily, I only have to worry about being interrupted during dinner... oh, wait - I guess that's not such a good thing.

it is freakish, really...
Only if they call you while you're doing both.
 
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:59 AM
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Look for a lump of coal in your stocking...
Originally Posted by Bahamabart
Regardless you need to make a claim (its the NAM thing to do!!) so half the community can "hump your leg" and so that the other half is out searching the junkyards for these power adders .

Out doing SID is a very worthy goal!! and you have done just that

sorry Sid.
 
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Look for a lump of coal in your stocking...
new this would generate a post from you - SID

I can use the coal - I'm working on a coal fired mini project. So far the analysis shows it will blow Jan's efforts away !! I just have to figure out how to eliminate the coal car (think trains) because it does slow things down.
 
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I look forward to hearing more about your tuning options BahamaBart. Are they any cheaper than Jan's? heh heh

About the NACA ducting mentioned earlier:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The NACA duct or NACA scoop is a common form of low-drag intake design, originally developed by the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (the precursor to NASA) in 1945. When properly implemented, it allows air to be drawn into an internal duct, often for cooling purposes, with a minimal disturbance to the flow. The design was originally called a "submerged inlet," since it consists of a shallow ramp with curved walls recessed into the exposed surface of a streamlined body, such as an aircraft. It is especially favored in racing car design.


Prior submerged inlet experiments showed poor pressure recovery due to the slow-moving boundary layer entering the intake. This design is believed to work because the combination of the gentle ramp angle and the curvature profile of the walls creates counter-rotating vortices which deflect the boundary layer away from the intake and draws in the faster moving air, while avoiding the form drag and flow separation that can occur with protruding inlet designs. This type of flush inlet generally cannot achieve the larger ram pressures and flow volumes of an external design, and so is rarely used for the jet engine intake application for which it was originally designed, (the North American YF-93 and Short Sherpa being exceptions.) It is, however, common for engine and ventilation intakes.

end wiki quote


EDIT: After a google search, it turns out you can buy NACA ducts of various sizes from racer parts wholesale. But money is a big issue right now.
 

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Old 11-27-2007, 07:19 AM
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We looked at NACA ducts for this project. One reason they were rejected was the desire to retain the curves of the Mini hood. When combined with the fact they a duct to bring airflow in and we were looking for a out concept they didn't fit the bill.
 
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:02 AM
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Looks great gnatster, I've wanted to mold in my hood scoop ever since I bought the car, but your vents take it to whole new level, coolest exterior mod I have seen yet.
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:37 PM
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Getting closer!!!

Note the attention to detail. Primed and painted all the bits that can be seen through the grills matte black and have the bug guard from Bug guards for Beemers.



Bonnet is on, most of the trim in place. Another day of cleanup and the like... but for now.



A proper photo shoot will be forthcoming..have some other tricks up my sleeve first.
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:39 PM
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looking good!!!
 
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looks great!!!!!
 
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Mmmm... Pure hawtness.

How much was that bug grille?
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:01 PM
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that is pure sex. can't wait to see more...

btw. I keep forgetting to send out the sprayer. I swear i'll get it sent out monday. I've been on the road from mon-friday each week for the last 10 weeks... so im a little out of sorts.
 
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Excuse me. I'm a little hot and bothered.

Awesome gnat.

The bug guards are here.

$60
 
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Yowtch...

On the bright side, I just got an idea for my next project... (evil grin).
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ImagoX
Yowtch...

On the bright side, I just got an idea for my next project... (evil grin).
Yowtch? It's like 10x as big as a scoop grille, and I know what THOSE cost...
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:09 PM
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Dude - I wouldn't use the stainless steel stuff... It would weigh a ton. I'm thinking plastic...
 
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I was just giving you a hard time - thought you were griping about the pricing... that was my point...

Sorry - end of threadjack.

Gnat - you should send your pic to the bug guard guy - cause your pic is MUCH better than the one on his site...
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:23 PM
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looking good... what is the thermal efficiency?... in other words have you measured heat reduction and I missed it.... you know I have an interest in this...... really nice job
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:28 PM
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Looks sick Nate.

Don't know if you answered it already but any concerns on water (I was mostly focusing on all the nice pics)?

Does it ever rain in Texas? Up here in the NE we have to worry about these kinds of things.
 
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Wow. You front end really does look amazing. Although the molded hood scoop just doesn't do it for me. It might just be the lack of the MINI logo though. Either way, I really love your car and hope mine can be that nice some day.
 
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Originally Posted by SpiderX
looking good... what is the thermal efficiency?... in other words have you measured heat reduction and I missed it.... you know I have an interest in this...... really nice job
No idea, the hood only went back on today.

I never did any testing of underhood temps before the change so in the spirit of NAM I'm going to claim that it lowers the IAT's to ambient at all speeds, makes hair grow on bald men and chicks dig it.

Bob, frankly, this is a bling mod and any extra cooling is just a good thing. In theory that location is a low pressure spot on the hood and hot air should be drawn from under the hood.

If it was the bug guard you meant...well the water temps in day to day running around are teh same with or without. I did note that the water does reach it's high a little quicker, but not so much faster that it may just be a statistical anomaly. Running full bore on track on 100+ degree days the temp was on avg 7 degrees higher with the bug guard then without. But given the gauge has a an advertised +/- 2% range that may be just minor sensor fluctuation.
 


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