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Interior/Exterior R56 4-point harness (like Schroth)

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Call Joe at HMS. He the the HANS and Schroth master and can answer all you questions.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Agreed, Joe is a noted expert in this field. If you can't reach him, give me a call - I'm one of his proteges (951)296-6762
 
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Anyone know of any updates on the Schroth Quick-fit for the R56?
 
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 03:44 AM
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Nothing yet. Asking HMS about it elicits thousand-yard stares and nonsensical mumblings.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Nothing yet. Asking HMS about it elicits thousand-yard stares and nonsensical mumblings.
Thanks. That's a bit discouraging.
Anyone know of any other DOT-approved 3 or 4 pt harnesses for the R56?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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I picked up a set of Schroth Rallye 4 harness the other day. Can some one tell me where to attach the rear part. I'm thinking that the outside point attaches to the stock seatbelt point, but I can't figure out the inside rear attachment point.

If anyone has a suggestion let me know
 
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 05:06 AM
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for an R56?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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The Rallye harness is NOT designed to be used in a daily driver w/o the proper mods, new seat, belt anchors, harness bar......
 
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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yes for the R56
 
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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My bad......the Rallye belts are designed for some cars, just not sure about using them in the R56.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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Sorry kinda resurrecting this, but thats better than another new topic, which I find myself doing alot.
For the R56 it has been said here and elsewhere that simple modification of the harness will allot it to fit in the R56. Is it as good as the stock belts in a daily driver? I'm look at them for more aesthetics than racing and I want to know that they'll hold up if god forbid I do get into an accident. I assume they are better, but that's an assumption.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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These should not be considered a replacement for the OEM belts for a daily driver. They are designed to be used as a drivers aid while doing a track day or autoX, places where you normally don't need to look around for traffic, pedestrians, animals, cops, good looking girls........well you get the point.

Stay with the stock belts for your daily driver.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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anyword yet if it is out for the r56 with out the old r53 harness with the file/grind mod?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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None yet.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by familiarstranger
I like the CG lock alot. as long as you tighten the key well i have had no problem with slipping. get in pull tight, give it some slack when you take it off and repeat. It is really nice being able shift smoothly even in a turn where the G force would otherwise make it a bit of a chore. O and it is surprisingly comfortable for daily driving. No track days with it yet.
Perhaps you haven't taken any track instruction. One should never shift nor brake while in a turn nor should one lift totally off the gas pedal in a turn. These actions have the potential to put the car in a spin or worse. Shift and brake only on straights. Feather the gas pedal in turns. Accelerate out of a turn.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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This is usually correct, but you will find yourself at some point in time at a track that has a turn or two that you will need to shift while in the turn. They are called increasing and decreasing radius turns.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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still waiting for the new harness, I have a r53 harness. Not sure if it fits the clubman.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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Bump.... any news of anything?

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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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R56 Harness

I talked today to Jeff at Schroth and still waiting on the seats to be certified. once they are will be min 8 weeks til we see belts, though the design is finished and ready for production.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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Wow, that's the same thing they said like two years ago. Must not be a priority. That said, I love my Schroth harness on my Formula Vee.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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I use the r53 belt in my r56 and it works great. All you have to do it trim a small piece of plastic on the schroth belt. It has nothing to do with the function of the belt.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by phxsteele
I use the r53 belt in my r56 and it works great. All you have to do it trim a small piece of plastic on the schroth belt. It has nothing to do with the function of the belt.
Any chance of seeing a picture of where to trim that plastic piece. I have considered buying an R53 belt but have hesitated waiting for the R56 iteration.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by phxsteele
I use the r53 belt in my r56 and it works great. All you have to do it trim a small piece of plastic on the schroth belt. It has nothing to do with the function of the belt.

But it may have something to do with the construction of the seats themselves. The seats have to be able to withstand some additional loading from the belts. This I believe is the reason for the holdup on getting certified.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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I, too, need to see a pic of the plastic trim to make it fit the R56. A gal had pics posted before, but must have removed them from her photobucket account.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Here are a few pics of mine.

After cutting:


Showing what was cut:


Basically the little plastic tabs will not let the seatbelt latch in the stock holder. Cutting this off will allow it to latch.
 
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