How To Oil cooler/filter housing gasket replacement
#276
Put front end in service mode. While I was replacing the original turbo oil supply line at 65,000 miles with the Detroit Tuned kit, I also replaced the turbo oil return line with an OEM one, oil filter housing gaskets, and heat exchanger gaskets. The heat exchanger attaches to the side of the oil filter housing so I figured I may as well replace the gaskets while I had the housing removed from the engine. The Detroit Tuned kit was good.
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#278
@Lex2008 Thanks for the suggestion about water pump and hose, but most likely I won't replace them as I'm planning to sell the car soon. I want to do what's right, without over-doing it. Not that it matters much but my car is not a 2010, it's a 2013 with 52k easy miles on it, in the perfect weather of SoCal.
@neonsteve Understood about the housing-exchanger gasket, I was already planning to replace it. It seems you didn't do any of the coolant lines, why? Saving a few dollars or just didn't look necessary?
@mbwicz As it's my first time doing this job, I think it's best if I put the car in service mode, to get some extra space. I actually stopped today at my local hardware store and picked up the two 120mm M8 bolts required to hold the front-end of the car when you slide it forward.
@neonsteve Understood about the housing-exchanger gasket, I was already planning to replace it. It seems you didn't do any of the coolant lines, why? Saving a few dollars or just didn't look necessary?
@mbwicz As it's my first time doing this job, I think it's best if I put the car in service mode, to get some extra space. I actually stopped today at my local hardware store and picked up the two 120mm M8 bolts required to hold the front-end of the car when you slide it forward.
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Lex2008 (11-04-2022)
#280
I bet ECS Tuning has the same kit for cheaper.
Use some Scotch-Brite on the mating surfaces of the cooler and filter housing to get them clean.
Last edited by Lex2008; 11-04-2022 at 12:41 PM.
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ECSTuning (11-07-2022)
#281
And if its your first time doing this, disconnect the battery. There is a positive terminal on the alternator that can come into contact when removing the heat shields. And have a variety of 10 mm sockets and wrenches. Getting the heat shields on and off is the worst part of the job.
One of the reasons that the system leaks is that the hole spacing for the filter housing is not ideal. I've had warpage on the filter housing, and have used a file to flatten the surface between the block and the oil filter housing.
And in my opinion, ECS is no longer the cheapest place around. They have a great catalog, and sometimes things go on sale. The detroit tuned kit uses an aftermarket oil pressure line that will be more reliable than the factory line.
Mike
One of the reasons that the system leaks is that the hole spacing for the filter housing is not ideal. I've had warpage on the filter housing, and have used a file to flatten the surface between the block and the oil filter housing.
And in my opinion, ECS is no longer the cheapest place around. They have a great catalog, and sometimes things go on sale. The detroit tuned kit uses an aftermarket oil pressure line that will be more reliable than the factory line.
Mike
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Lex2008 (11-05-2022)
#282
Ditto on the battery disconnect, I read about it and was already planning to do it.
I have a good selection of tools, we’ll see if they are enough…
I’m going to order the parts and maybe use the Thanksgiving weekend to do the job, so I have a couple full days to devote to it.
Will report back on my experience… or I might come back here for help if I get stuck
Thanks all for your inputs!
I have a good selection of tools, we’ll see if they are enough…
I’m going to order the parts and maybe use the Thanksgiving weekend to do the job, so I have a couple full days to devote to it.
Will report back on my experience… or I might come back here for help if I get stuck
Thanks all for your inputs!
#283
Not sure how the emissions inspection is where you live, but this is the perfect time to install the aftermarket downpipe. Other than my stage 1 tune, this was the biggest 'seat of the pants' power improvement. I used a catted downpipe. I have an 'incomplete' emissions output recorded in my ECM, but here in NY we are allowed one (with no CEL showing). So as long as all else is running ok, I'm good.
The cheapest place I have found for OEM MINI parts is thebmwminipartstore.com It is a MINI dealer in Cincinnati. You pay shipping, so take that into account. RM European is also good to deal with.
Have fun,
Mike
The cheapest place I have found for OEM MINI parts is thebmwminipartstore.com It is a MINI dealer in Cincinnati. You pay shipping, so take that into account. RM European is also good to deal with.
Have fun,
Mike
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Lex2008 (11-05-2022)
#284
I replaced the turbo line (with the
Detroit Tuned one) and the oil
cooler housing gaskets several
months ago. It was a long job
with a couple snags, but overall
not that difficult.
The stealership will charge an
arm and a leg (and bill for WAY
more labor hours than they actually put in) because they
know you don’t want to do it
yourself.
if you can’t or won’t do it
yourself, find a reasonable
and competent independent
shop to do it for half an arm
and a third of a leg.
Detroit Tuned one) and the oil
cooler housing gaskets several
months ago. It was a long job
with a couple snags, but overall
not that difficult.
The stealership will charge an
arm and a leg (and bill for WAY
more labor hours than they actually put in) because they
know you don’t want to do it
yourself.
if you can’t or won’t do it
yourself, find a reasonable
and competent independent
shop to do it for half an arm
and a third of a leg.
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Lex2008 (11-05-2022)
#285
Ecs tuning vs thebmwminipartstore.com
Ecs:
But if you want the option of OEM manufacturer part not in the BMW box, ECS is way cheaper. The vacuum pump solenoid was $40 more plus shipping at thebmeninipartsstore.com than at ECS Tuning.
Last edited by Lex2008; 11-05-2022 at 10:04 AM.
#286
Yes we work with the OEM supplier direct to try to get the best prices.
On most* parts we can match other Genuine MINI dealers, as long its correct and a valid dealer. Keep in mind that other dealers are slow to update prices in there systems as they are not as quick as us. So if its way way below they might A. eat the cost B. Update it and email you back there was a price change error and cancel the order. We have even seen MINI dealers shut down there site recently (drop MINI parts) due to not being able to update the site daily/per month, they lost money and shut down there sales site.
We also do this for "call in only" for our MINI people on the forums, you have to mention you are on the forums and "call in only".
I am always here, unless on vacation/sema/family event to help you guys.
On most* parts we can match other Genuine MINI dealers, as long its correct and a valid dealer. Keep in mind that other dealers are slow to update prices in there systems as they are not as quick as us. So if its way way below they might A. eat the cost B. Update it and email you back there was a price change error and cancel the order. We have even seen MINI dealers shut down there site recently (drop MINI parts) due to not being able to update the site daily/per month, they lost money and shut down there sales site.
We also do this for "call in only" for our MINI people on the forums, you have to mention you are on the forums and "call in only".
I am always here, unless on vacation/sema/family event to help you guys.
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#287
Scratching my head on this one. Reading through this thread, but have not seen anything that calls out what the issue I might have.
I recently replaced the turbos feed and return oil lines. Also replaced the the oil filter housing gaskets while I was in there. After putting everything back together. Toped off the oil, and filled and bled the coolant system. Now I have a rough idle issue. seems that there might be a vacuum leak? When pulling the oil cap off while the car is running. There is some suction that pull the cap back on.
Before going to pull the heat shields back out and the down pipe. Looking to see if anyone might have some thoughts.
2011 Countryman S
I recently replaced the turbos feed and return oil lines. Also replaced the the oil filter housing gaskets while I was in there. After putting everything back together. Toped off the oil, and filled and bled the coolant system. Now I have a rough idle issue. seems that there might be a vacuum leak? When pulling the oil cap off while the car is running. There is some suction that pull the cap back on.
Before going to pull the heat shields back out and the down pipe. Looking to see if anyone might have some thoughts.
2011 Countryman S
#288
Scratching my head on this one. Reading through this thread, but have not seen anything that calls out what the issue I might have.
I recently replaced the turbos feed and return oil lines. Also replaced the the oil filter housing gaskets while I was in there. After putting everything back together. Toped off the oil, and filled and bled the coolant system. Now I have a rough idle issue. seems that there might be a vacuum leak? When pulling the oil cap off while the car is running. There is some suction that pull the cap back on.
Before going to pull the heat shields back out and the down pipe. Looking to see if anyone might have some thoughts.
2011 Countryman S
I recently replaced the turbos feed and return oil lines. Also replaced the the oil filter housing gaskets while I was in there. After putting everything back together. Toped off the oil, and filled and bled the coolant system. Now I have a rough idle issue. seems that there might be a vacuum leak? When pulling the oil cap off while the car is running. There is some suction that pull the cap back on.
Before going to pull the heat shields back out and the down pipe. Looking to see if anyone might have some thoughts.
2011 Countryman S
And intake pipe into turbo.
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ECSTuning (11-21-2023)
#289
Finally had time to go back in. All hoses look to be in good condition. Double checked wire connectors. There are 2 on the oil filter housing. I believe 1 is the aux water pump and the 2nd is a air temp sensor. Seems they are correct. As the wire harness does not allow them to stretch out past where they can reach. Going to start buttoning it back up and see if there is any change.
#291
Got it back together and checked the pcv hoses. From what I can see it all looks in order. As the engine warmed up. It still ran rough. At this point I am wondering if a gasket in the oil filter housing shifted or did not seat right. I let it run for a bit and noticed a bit of smoke coming of the exhaust pipe. Where it meets the cat. Once it cools I am going to give it one more look to see if I can spot if/where it might be leaking. There has been no new drops while the car has been sitting.
#292
Got it back together and checked the pcv hoses. From what I can see it all looks in order. As the engine warmed up. It still ran rough. At this point I am wondering if a gasket in the oil filter housing shifted or did not seat right. I let it run for a bit and noticed a bit of smoke coming of the exhaust pipe. Where it meets the cat. Once it cools I am going to give it one more look to see if I can spot if/where it might be leaking. There has been no new drops while the car has been sitting.
Can you hear a vacuum leak anywhere? Can you use some carb cleaner when the engine is cold and just start spraying around the vacuum lines to see if you get a change in idle? Have a garden hose or fire extinguisher handy!
It was idling and running perfectly before you changed the oil and coolant gaskets?
#293
It's probably just smoking because some oil is coolant dripped onto the down pipe. It will burn off.
Can you hear a vacuum leak anywhere? Can you use some carb cleaner when the engine is cold and just start spraying around the vacuum lines to see if you get a change in idle? Have a garden hose or fire extinguisher handy!
It was idling and running perfectly before you changed the oil and coolant gaskets?
Can you hear a vacuum leak anywhere? Can you use some carb cleaner when the engine is cold and just start spraying around the vacuum lines to see if you get a change in idle? Have a garden hose or fire extinguisher handy!
It was idling and running perfectly before you changed the oil and coolant gaskets?
#294
#295
Was finally able determine the issue of the rough idle. After running a few test and reseting the vanos system. Turns out the cam timing is off. Best I can figure. Is that at some point the oil pressure was too low and released enough pressure off the chain guides. Which allowed the chain to slip a few teeth. So next I will be getting the timing chain and cam chain tensioner replaced.
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