I am going to be purchasing a new Mini Cooper S with John Cooper Works GP Kit this coming September. I was wondering if anyone else out there is going to be doing the same. I know we are a rare bunch since only 415 are making it to the US. Speak up if you are. I also would like anyone else's feedback on what they think of the new MCS JCW w/ GP. Appreciate the feedback.

 

A bit disappointing that they're only another 8 horses over stock JCW.

However, a big welcome to Team Craptastic!!

 

There's a thread over on MINI2 you might want to join in with (it has European GP buyers listed too)
http://www.mini2.com/forum/mini-coop...buying-gp.html

 

True, but it also is 100 lbs lighter too. That should count for a bit more power to weight ratio.

Thanks for the link GBMINI!

 

I hope it's everything you want it to be....

Matt

 

8hp and 100lbs less and the priviledge to be in the elite club... still doesnt really justify the additional cost IMHO.

 

Its 4 HP, 214 vice JCW 210 Or something like that.

It also has those huge lead weight 18" wheels

I suggest you do a search of NAM and you will find a huge amount of posts concerning the car.

best of luck

 

The JCW is 208hp in USA (beware different figures due to different measuring schemes in different countries) so 6hp stands.
I've been told that the GP wheels are the lightest ever available from MINI. Of course that doesn't mean they're lighter than some aftermarket wheels.

 

Actual power ratings ...

154 kW = 209.381729065 PS = 206.517402236 HP for the JCW
160 kW = 217.539458769 PS = 214.563534790 HP for the JCW GP

 

Additional cost? Over a similar specced JCW it is actually a fair bit cheaper.

I thought long and hard about buying this car. Twice I ordered one and twice I cancelled the order. But in the end I decided to go for it. It is something a bit different, I wanted one of the last SC Mini's and since I'd be buying a last of the line, I felt the GP would hold its value better than a similar specced JCW.

With regards the power, if you read the literature the peak torque is actually exactly the same as a JCW. What they have done to extract that extra power is to increase the rev range. So while 8bhp may not sound alot I bet the increased revs will change the dynamics of the car. The weight will of course add to that.

I personally cannot wait to get my hands on it as there is no doubt in mind this will be the best handling production Mini to date.

July 06...bring it on.

 

100lbs? seats aren't much more than 40 esp. after you add the delete kit weight and that "strut brace" A/C can't be more than 20lbs, no sunroof but sunroof would be weight added not subtracted. Did they remove the little sound deading? The spoiler is bound to add weight (behind the rear axle) and rear down force on a FWD car. So even if the wheels are lighter where did the 100 lbs come from?

 

MF says 88 lbs, between seats and A/c I can only come up with 60 then add five for the spoiler. I don't think preformance is going to be the focus of this car but much more uniqueness.

 

CONGRATULATIONS MJO_MINI. o_o I don't know why there are so many negative voices here. In my opinion, though, it's part of the soul of the vehicle that makes it so desirable. It's part of the reason I bought MY MINI Cooper S. It may not be a special edition, but I love it just the same. I wish many happy motoring miles to you and your GP.

 

On top of the removal of the rear seats, are reduced sound deading and aluminium rear-axle trailing arms. The Spoiler won't add much weight as it's CF.

 

How much weight saved by the rear axle trailing arms 28lbs?

 

Thanks MotoringSpeed. I figure I'll get a good representation of remarks on this thread since some of us have the opportunity to purchase it and others will not. Remember all MINIs are awesome cars and I just find myself very fortunate to own an 05 PS/B Cabriolet and soon, our second MINI, the GP. I take the good with the bad. I think we all agree that the GP will be a heck of a car either way.

 

I think the only reason for the negativity is the fact many were expecting a lighter, more powerful car. I'm asking my questions only so I know more about the new model not at all intending to put down the new model.

 

As motor on said ... its a huge disappointment to many.

See here http://www.mini2.com/forum/mini-coop...buying-gp.html

only a trickle of ppl admit they paid deposit?

 

I just cant believe that its only a few ponies over stock JCW and still bearly over 30k. I have a 2005 MCSa w/o JCW and it was over 30k. I dont have the nav or chrono pack. Nothing fancy.

 

If I were to add the JCW kit to my car I would still only come in at 27K (if I did most of the install myself which is no bigge from reading the instructions) or 29K (w/ full labor) instead I'm going a different, cheaper, slightly more powerful route over the course of time. But there is a lot more too it than cost. BTW I sat down and configured a 911, 130,000 and I even changed to just the S instead of the 4S, I think my highest on MINIUSA was 42k.:impatient

 

again, i dont think anybody is buying that car for the extra power. I think the point is the rarity, elite club of it.

I was going to purchase one myself but I didnt want to put down the $5k as my dealer had wanted me.

 

Sorry, 2000 cars just isnt rare. 12 cars is rare. even 400 cars is not rare. If anyone thinks they are going to actually "make" any money on these, they need to seriosly study what collectors consider rare ... Rare is one there were like 2 Hemi Cudas Convertables ever made in a certain color, etc.

 

Plus, it would have to be a garage queen and you're probably looking at 30+ years before it becomes a desirable collectible (if it ever reaches that status). How many people keep their cars for 10 years, let alone 20-30, with minimal mileage etc. With most collector's cars that bring big bucks it's not the original owner who's cashing-in (or out).

 

Good for you!!! Now the question is: Who's GP is it? Yours or your wife's? Or are both the MINIs yours?? LOL. I can't wait till you get it. (I'm calling shot-gun right NOW!!)

 

Well I beg to differ, I think 400 cars for the whole of the united states is pretty damn rare. But I am not foolish enough to think I will actually make money from this car, however I bet over a stock JCW when time comes to sell I will loose less.