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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Brake air ducts installed

LDG installed the brake air ducts yesterday, they did a great job and they work beautifully.They seem to be always working at their best now, especially at high speeds, no fade at all and even more responsive. The install took roughly 4 hours, it was worth the drive to Lucky dog garage to get them done along with a couple of other projects they did for me.
Waymotorsports.com supplied the air ducts.

Brian after removing some of the back of the spoiler shows how the duct will attach to the back of the original air vent and that with the GP you don't need the adapter plate (as I call it) shown in the picture.




He had to partially remove the inner wheel arch and cut it to accommadate the duct.
The duct installed before putting back the inner arch.





Next the inner arch was put in place and everything was secured. You have to look carefully at the vent to see that is now functional


 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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Nice job
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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UP . Alot cleaner than other installs i've seen.Enjoy
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Was there a backing plate behind the rotor before starting the job? If so, was it removed by LDG?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Were did you buy it? I want them. :D
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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nice job! planning on track time? the ducts say yes but the rotors scream no
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Were did you buy it? I want them. :D
Waymotorsports.com, they are on special for $275.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Looks great, Gary. Good idea to have more stopping power to go with the increased hp.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Cool!!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PGT
nice job! planning on track time? the ducts say yes but the rotors scream no
Thanks, I'm hoping to try it in November once my weekend free up a bit from coaching. On MTTS I got to drive at Laguna Seca- only 2 laps, Sandia 10 laps fast and limerock 2 laps. I realized then that track could be very addicting, and was eventually going to happen for me.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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The brake ducts come from Way Motor Works.

Have a set on my non-GP that also were worked in without the riveted look. Sure are great for track use. Don't want to post the pictures in this thread. You can find them here
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Looks great, Gary. Good idea to have more stopping power to go with the increased hp.
Let me know when you next visit your mother-inlaw so you can test drive it.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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Let me know when you next visit your mother-inlaw so you can test drive it.
Definitely! Also, when you are ready to go tracking, be sure to check out www.trackmasters.com. Great venue (Watkins Glen), great instructors and organization (I know many of them), and great amount of track and classroom time for the money. Only problem is that the majority of their events are during the weekday.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveS
Was there a backing plate behind the rotor before starting the job? If so, was it removed by LDG?
Yes there was and still is a backing plate behind the rotors, its hard to see it in the pictures, but I did check today to be sure

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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Definitely! Also, when you are ready to go tracking, be sure to check out www.trackmasters.com. Great venue (Watkins Glen), great instructors and organization (I know many of them), and great amount of track and classroom time for the money. Only problem is that the majority of their events are during the weekday.
With 5 kids weekdays are better, I will try to go soon.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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It would seem to me that the backing plate would diminish the airflow to the rotor, and diminish the cooling effect of the duct. Is this incorrect? There are replacement backing plates which direct airflow to the rotor vanes, and hence cool the rotor efficiently, but of course I have no personal experience with such items, have just read of them.

https://store.nexternal.com/uuc/imag...36-BBP-STA.jpg

on this site:

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/St...unt2=641349434
 

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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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There is an opening between the caliper and the rotor where the cooling air enters. The backing plates do not need to be removed and they actually serve as heat shields to the wheel sensor and tie rod end as well as the lower ball joint. The setup that we use for the track are the two piece floating hubs on the front. This way the heat in the rotor is not transfered into the wheel hub bearings and caliper.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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To LDG. Thank you for your informed response. I had considered just removing them if I went to the track with my stock setup. Your information leads me to believe this would not be such a smart thing to do. Maybe once in a while the factory has reasons for doing things the way they do.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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Wow... .this is great! Nice work LDG and Gary.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by garylimey
Waymotorsports.com, they are on special for $275.
Sorry, my mistake, its actually waymotorworks.com
 
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by garylimey
Sorry, my mistake, its actually waymotorworks.com
http://www.waymotorworks.com/

nice job!

great looking MINI gnatster.
 
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