2005 MINI Cooper slips in first gear
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2005 MINI Cooper slips in first gear
So my friend has a 2005 MINI cooper slips in first gear when he was driving. He said he has an AVT Transmission
, I thought all minis have the CVT transmission and when I talked to my transmission friends they say its expensive to repair because BMW doesnt want to fork over the parts for cheap so its best to get it from a wrech. What do you think the issue there is?
, I thought all minis have the CVT transmission and when I talked to my transmission friends they say its expensive to repair because BMW doesnt want to fork over the parts for cheap so its best to get it from a wrech. What do you think the issue there is?
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Likely your friend meant CVT. However, I'm not sure the CVT was even available in 2005. At some point the CVT was dropped. 'Likely someone else will know for sure.
The Mini CVT doesn't have the best reputation. And the best way to take care of the problem is to find a functioning used transmission, put it in, and then sell the darn car. I like the CVT in our Nissan Murano. I wouldn't have on in a Mini. (Even Mini doesn't install them anymore.)
If anyone plans on keeping their CVT, change the transmission fluid MUCH more often than the factory recommends and use the very, very best fluid available. Then change it more often.
Did I mention that it must be changed far more often than recommended?..............
The Mini CVT doesn't have the best reputation. And the best way to take care of the problem is to find a functioning used transmission, put it in, and then sell the darn car. I like the CVT in our Nissan Murano. I wouldn't have on in a Mini. (Even Mini doesn't install them anymore.)
If anyone plans on keeping their CVT, change the transmission fluid MUCH more often than the factory recommends and use the very, very best fluid available. Then change it more often.
Did I mention that it must be changed far more often than recommended?..............
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Likely your friend meant CVT. However, I'm not sure the CVT was even available in 2005. At some point the CVT was dropped. 'Likely someone else will know for sure.
The Mini CVT doesn't have the best reputation. And the best way to take care of the problem is to find a functioning used transmission, put it in, and then sell the darn car. I like the CVT in our Nissan Murano. I wouldn't have on in a Mini. (Even Mini doesn't install them anymore.)
If anyone plans on keeping their CVT, change the transmission fluid MUCH more often than the factory recommends and use the very, very best fluid available. Then change it more often.
Did I mention that it must be changed far more often than recommended?..............
The Mini CVT doesn't have the best reputation. And the best way to take care of the problem is to find a functioning used transmission, put it in, and then sell the darn car. I like the CVT in our Nissan Murano. I wouldn't have on in a Mini. (Even Mini doesn't install them anymore.)
If anyone plans on keeping their CVT, change the transmission fluid MUCH more often than the factory recommends and use the very, very best fluid available. Then change it more often.
Did I mention that it must be changed far more often than recommended?..............
A cvt does not have "gears", but the computer is programmed to simulate gears to make folks feel more like it is working right, rather than just a constant rpm buzz....
The cvt tranny is a metal belt and two pulleys....not particully well understood, limited parts from the orgional maker, and a very poor/bad reputation.....regular fluid changes help the life a bit, but a very $$ fix...non dealers sometimes can fix them...but it is NOT a sure thing.
The cvt tranny is a metal belt and two pulleys....not particully well understood, limited parts from the orgional maker, and a very poor/bad reputation.....regular fluid changes help the life a bit, but a very $$ fix...non dealers sometimes can fix them...but it is NOT a sure thing.
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Either way, if the transmission is shot, a good unit out of a wrecked car is likely your best option. And if it turns out to be a CVT equiped car, I'd sell it as soon as it's repaired and let someone else take the risk that it will fail again.
http://www.motoringfile.com/mini-r50r53-buyers-guide/
The MC also had similar tweaks that resulted in slightly more torque and better power power throughout the range. However the biggest change to the drivetrain of the Cooper was the introduction of the Getrag 5-speed gearbox in place of the problem prone and rather ancient Midlands manual unit. The new gearbox produced better feel and real feedback – a big step up indeed.
Another option introduced in the 2005 model year MCS (starting with 01.05 builds) was the much debated Aisin 6-speed automatic gearbox. The gearbox offered mediocre performance (almost a full second slower than manual cars) but allowed for easy operation in heavy traffic. It also featured paddle shifters that allowed for a semi-manual option. In the real world however, the computer still would over-rule this manual control from time to time. While it was a welcome option for some, it was derided by most in the MINI community as pandering to the US market. Yet that didn’t stop as many as 50% of soon to be MINI owners from checking the “auto” box on the ordering sheet...............
.........Another area that problems persisted were with the One and Cooper models with the optional CVT transmission. While issues seem to be less frequent than the earlier cars, the basic design of the transmission didn’t change in ’05 and thus it would be wise to keep this in mind when shopping. Of course the newly released automatic on the Cooper S was a traditional torque converter style auto that doesn’t share any of the CVT issues. That said modern automatic transmissions aren’t always known for their long-term (100k+) reliability so keep that in mind.
Another option introduced in the 2005 model year MCS (starting with 01.05 builds) was the much debated Aisin 6-speed automatic gearbox. The gearbox offered mediocre performance (almost a full second slower than manual cars) but allowed for easy operation in heavy traffic. It also featured paddle shifters that allowed for a semi-manual option. In the real world however, the computer still would over-rule this manual control from time to time. While it was a welcome option for some, it was derided by most in the MINI community as pandering to the US market. Yet that didn’t stop as many as 50% of soon to be MINI owners from checking the “auto” box on the ordering sheet...............
.........Another area that problems persisted were with the One and Cooper models with the optional CVT transmission. While issues seem to be less frequent than the earlier cars, the basic design of the transmission didn’t change in ’05 and thus it would be wise to keep this in mind when shopping. Of course the newly released automatic on the Cooper S was a traditional torque converter style auto that doesn’t share any of the CVT issues. That said modern automatic transmissions aren’t always known for their long-term (100k+) reliability so keep that in mind.
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Too integrated into the computer....and the PHYSICAL location of the motor is SLIGHT different in the S auto..over about an inch, and slightly higher...and the gearing would be off....
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So, it would seem that if your friend's Mini is a regular model, it's a CVT transmission. If it's an S model, it's the more conventional Aisin transmission. Either way, it's much less hassle to replace what's already in there. The only way it might be worth it to upgrade from the CVT to the Aisin would be if he's dropped a ton of money into the rest of the car and can't bear to part with it.
But either way, if it's really a CVT car, even after replacing the transmission, I'd sell it quick while it's still running.
I find it remarkable that roughly 95 percent of new car buyers buy an automatic.
But either way, if it's really a CVT car, even after replacing the transmission, I'd sell it quick while it's still running.
I find it remarkable that roughly 95 percent of new car buyers buy an automatic.
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