OK all you motor gurus. I just read this on cnbc.com today. It's about converting your car to use water (& gas) to run on. You have to buy an inexpensive unit (money back guarrantee), the auto companies are in discussion with this individual as well as the government (US). He is converting a Hummer to run on water (gas back up). His car has already been converted & he seems to know something about this as he is a welder. Here is the URL, it sounds a little hoakie in the beginning but read/watch the entire video & then respond. Funny, I found it on cnbc but it was first report by FOX NEWS.
http://www.runyourcarwithwater.com/?...1461378 90521

 

My uncle did this in his van 20 years ago. You can build one yourself. Electricity passing through a coil submerged in distilled water with baking soda releases HHO, which is fed into the intake manifold. HHO is combustible and supplements the fuel already used by your car.

If you try it on your mini keep in touch.

 

Unfortunately, it takes considerably more energy to dissociate water
into hydrogen and oxygen than the amount you get back by burning it.

This is very simple chemistry and nothing new, except the
claims that it is useful to do.

 

The last thing we want in the world is a water shortage. I'd like to see solutions using end product matter, such as garbage, being converted for fuel.
Ethanol, particularly corn ethanol, another GIBI.
Now off my soapbox.

 

Maybe someday the techonology will be there to give us a source for cheap energy but I think that's a long way down the road. I think the reality is before summer ends we'll be paying $5.00+ for premium and just a little less for regular. Europe has been paying these prices and higher for years
and now it's our turn. The days of cheap fuel are over!!

 

Go see the movie, "who killed the electric car"

Anyone remember the EV1? If an auto manufacture is "interested" in some thing that reduces our dependence on oil, it's only to buy up the patents on it and SHELF the idea. They've done it in the past on numerous occasions.

 

Reminds me of the guy that developed something to spread on your lawn that would keep it green all summer AND stunt its growth, so you wouldn't have to cut it. Scott's payed him handsomely for the formula and shelved it.

If cars are going to run on water, make it salt water. We have plenty of that and with global warming will only have more as time goes on ...so they say.

I too like the idea of using garbage. Why not solve multiple problems at once? Nah, makes too much sense.

Dean.

 

i saw that movie.....very interesting

 

OK...I looked but cannnot find: what is 'GIBI'? ( see post #4 )

 

Can you say Scam.

HHO is H20, its water. Water doesn't burn because it's Oxidized Hydrogen, thats why when you burn hydrogen you have water as a by product. This unit likely just vaporizes the water, wich would pass through your engine and exit as water vapor.

 

Ask and you shall receive...

 

So how much energy/electricity is he using to create the high powered radio waves?

 

One of the television shows tried something like this a while ago. They found out that it made so little power they couldn't do much of anything with it...

I think it was mythbusters...

 

That's cool. Something tells me it's going to be difficult to condense a radio assembly powerful enough to do that into a small car though.

It also probably takes more energy to power said radio antenna's than is generated by pumping out a few hundred cubic inches worth of O2 every 5 minutes. Looks cool, in reality it doesn't work.

Cold fusion is a great solution to energy issues. We've actually successfully started a cold fusion reaction. Unfortunately it takes so much energy to sustain it would cost tens of thousands a month just to run the reactor, which could barely power anything.

 

It's 11 and 12 dollars a gallon in Europe, how can this be the end of it here?

 

The problem is that people are caught up in this ethanol and hydrogen fuel cell business when the power required to make these products is so great. And that power comes from primarily coal fired power plants, sending tonnes and tonnes of waste into the atmostphere. People don't like that but they also don't like nuclear power because of three-mile island and other isolated cases of nuclear power failures. The whole 'clean fuel' and 'less dependence on petrolium products' should start with power plants... in my opinion. Especially considering livestock pump out more methane, C02, and other 'greenhouse gasses' than all the cars running on the road today. When are we going to see cows with fuel injection, mufflers, and catalytic converters????

 

NJB, this product is pure, unadulterated B.S.
There's a reason that we use water to put out fires: It doesn't burn! It's an internal combustion engine, so what you use as fuel should be combustible!
Unfortunately, with gas at an all-time high, these wacko, useless, fraudulent products will be popping-up everywhere. Magnets you wrap on your fuel-line, pills in the gas tank, etc...

 

All hogwash. Just someone trying to sell something.

 

Well that should tell you something right away...

 

Good Intention, Bad Idea...i just made it up (but maybe I should patent/register it, then have the ethanol people buy me out... not asking for much, just enough to buy another MINI )

Just read, SF is having problems with thieves stealing restaurant grease...man, I'm so outta it...didn't realize it's being used for bio-fuel. When I was in school, I had a part time job dishwashing at a restaurant...part of my duties was emptying the trough from the stove. Amazing how much was in there each day. There was no recycle program back then.

 

You're a lot more well read and informed than the average 16 year old Nick. Glad to see more people our age are taking an active interest in politics and science instead of drugs and partying.

 

Wonder what the octane rating of water is?

 

We need one of these

 

water doesn't burn, but HHO does. slight difference. when you break the bond between the hydrogens and the oxygen you have a very flammable gas with some oxygen tagging along. and the result of the combustion of that is the same as the trick where you fill a balloon with hydrogen and pop the balloon with a flame. water.

 

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/08...ll-fails-in-t/