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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Battery powered MINI Cooper

Hybrid Technologies from north carolina have built a mini cooper with a 105bhp electric motor and a lithium-ion battery back.
As a result it produces zero emission,yet accelerates faster than the more powerful mini cooper s.
Top speed 80mph.
0-60mph 6.5 sec.
Range 120 miles.
www.hybridtechnologies.com
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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And the cost is?????
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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there was a company that daily planet did a special on that did just that,and said that they got better performance out of the car then stock.. they did porshes, and high end... $35,000
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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This company is different than that other story that got posted here a bunch of times, right? Where that really annoying singer had one? James Blunt, is that right?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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You mean like this?
http://jalopnik.com/cars/gizmodo/the...-ev-278816.php
(A mini cooper that costs as much as a 5-series BMW)

or this one?
http://jalopnik.com/cars/hybrid/four...ini-189077.php
(A mini with 4 electric motors generating a total of 640hp and 2,213ft-lb (?!) of torque )

Cheers!
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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There is a place by us that is doing electric conversions for $5000.00 - $7000.00-ish dollars. They are NOT using lithium-ion batteries.

I figure you sell the engine for parts and strip any extra weight and you are not paying that much.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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There was also a company and there was a big thread on it a few years ago the put a few 5.7 liter 350cui in the mini...0-60 in like less than 3....

Jack
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Mine didn't cost nearly that much...

http://www.phydeaux.net/gallery/main...INI/batteries/

 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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I think I'd still have to wait for the hydrogen powered MINI before I'll be able to justify the cost of going green.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by phydeaux
Mine didn't cost nearly that much...

http://www.phydeaux.net/gallery/main...INI/batteries/

 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Just a quick note - electric cars are not "emission free" since there is the whole issue of how the electricity is generated. I'd love to see a comparison by an unbiased source showing how many btus of energy are required to power an electric car for a mile by the time you convert fuel to electricity and all the distribution loss of electrical lines....
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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I still want to know who works on it when it breaks?

Hydrogen is a long, long way off. It still creates more pollution to produce the hydrogen fuel needed to drive 1 mile at 50MPH than to burn gasoline in a gas engine.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 03:11 AM
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has Hybrid Technologies announced what the price is to convert a MINI to electric?.....looks like it is all electric, and not a hybrid (gas and electric) despite their name
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Also note the drain on the environment to make the batteries. I will have to do some searching, but someone traced the creation of the batteries for the Prius. The raw materials to the creation of the final product took several trips accross many oceans. The place where the mining occurs is considered to be one of the worst ecological disasters in the world. Nothing grows within something like a 2 mile radius IIRC. In the end an H2 was more econmical to drive based on the production cost to the environment than a Prius.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by homerwest
Just a quick note - electric cars are not "emission free" since there is the whole issue of how the electricity is generated. I'd love to see a comparison by an unbiased source showing how many btus of energy are required to power an electric car for a mile by the time you convert fuel to electricity and all the distribution loss of electrical lines....
Yes, back to its roots, the electric car is coal-fired with the associated acid rain or is species killing hydro-powered . Until we go electric we're melting a couple of ice caps.

Sorry, hydrogen power requires electrical generation, so its no better.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by valthun
Also note the drain on the environment to make the batteries. I will have to do some searching, but someone traced the creation of the batteries for the Prius. The raw materials to the creation of the final product took several trips accross many oceans. The place where the mining occurs is considered to be one of the worst ecological disasters in the world. Nothing grows within something like a 2 mile radius IIRC. In the end an H2 was more econmical to drive based on the production cost to the environment than a Prius.
Not to mention the disposal of all those batteries when they fizzle out. What IS the projected battery life, anyway?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jakay11

or this one?
http://jalopnik.com/cars/hybrid/four...ini-189077.php
(A mini with 4 electric motors generating a total of 640hp and 2,213ft-lb (?!) of torque )

Cheers!
Actually a stock R56 puts more torque than that to the wheels in first gear. The big difference is that when you upshift in the R56, the torque drops off substantially with each upshift, because of the loss of torque multiplication. Also, a gasoline engine only produces near-maximum torque over a fairly narrow RPM range.

With electric motors at each wheel, you're not shifting gears, so they can produce that 2200 lbf-ft of torque (or close to it) from a dead stop all the way to the vehicle's top speed.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Not exactly. Electric motors make maximum torque at zero rpm. As rpm increases, their torque drops substantially. Since these are mounted in each wheel, there's no cvt to keep the motors spinning in their optimum range. Still, an electric motor can spin 10k+ rpm and will make good power even at such a high speed.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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True - electric motor torque *does* drop off with RPM, but if you have an electric motor driving a wheel directly, the motor only has to turn about 1700 RPM for the car to go 120MPH.

So even though a motor can still make good torque at 10,000 RPM, in this application, it will never need to. The torque at 1700 RPM is still going to be close to the maximum torque of the electric motor.
 

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