C4, I havent heard from him in a while!

 

As far as I know C4 was not banned from NAM. He was reprimanded a few times & chose to stop posting of his own free will

 

Greg, may be you did not search far enough: "c4 removed from NAM Today C4 has been removed from North American Motoring for his using multiple aliases to troll from on the site. In the recent past, C4 has threatened to leave NAM, only to return and treaten to leave NAM again. Then he moved on to other MINI forums where he proceeded to bash NAM, all the while checking the site regularly, and trolling on NAM under new aliases. At NAM, we're big believers that people should post under one account. It helps build trust and credibility, in addition to the fact that people do behave differently when they start creating multiple accounts. In some cases in the past, C4's included, people have used new aliases to defend the opinions they just expressed with another account. Because of these types of problems, for several years now, the NAM site guidelines have prohibited members from using multiple user accounts. Given the numerous instances where C4 has used multiple accounts to conceal his identity, today he has been removed from NAM. dave View Public Profile Send a private message to dave Send email to dave Find all posts by dave Add dave to Your Buddy List #2 Report Post Old" I read this as this poster has been permanently removed and banned from NAM. This means that he will never be able to return and post "as he pleases". He is history.

 

I agree...most everything said (and most definitely everything I say) should be weighed in the light of objective common sense. Most of us, in some ways, are full of carp!!

 

I thought if you were removed/banned from NAM all of your posts & every thread you ever created were also removed. Since C4's posts are still in tact I figured he was not banned. Oh well

 

Holy CARP!

 

Nice pic! Are you single?

 

No - I did not see that.

Here is the thread:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...rican+Motoring
Only the phony accounts and posts were removed, not the original - C4. That explains it.

Well, then I suppose he has little reason to be reasonable.

 

Not the case. We have the ability to instantly remove (actually, more like hide) all posts from a user, but that is only done in special cases (spammers being an obvious example). Being banned from NAM simply means you can no longer visit the site (or post of course). That doesn't mean past posts will be automatically removed.

 

Here is a thought......Don't ask for opinions people! Make your own choices!

NAM is a great place for facts AND opinion......Almost all of the DEBATE threads begin with such stupid questions like "should I buy a R53 or R56?" This invites DEBATE....these are not places where FACT can enter, when OPINIONS were asked for!

If you want facts and data then ask and you shall recieve, often without venom or bias, but then use information to make up your own darned mind.

SOLUTIONS:
1. Internet forum skills test, where people are taught to use THE SEARCH BUTTON !!!!! If you have a question or something to share quit thinking that you are special and you are the only one to ever have this unique thought....post only after searching.
2. Guidelines are revised to say that posters are strongly discouraged in starting threads like "What do you think of my new _____" or "Should I ____" and members are encouraged not to be lemmings and should make up thier own minds.
3. ALL opinion oriented threads are kept in off-topic area....why? because by post #10 they will be!

 

In the days of proxies and IP masking there is absolutly no way NAM has the capability to remove anyone from the site. If you cancel one account they can come back with another, and whether or not you ban their IP there are hundreds of proxies out there that you can bounce the site off along with IP masking software to make it appear as though it's coming from somewhere else.

 

Sorry Planeguy but I think your solutions would make NAM a bit boring plus we all know that the NAM search feature isn't quite up to par. I have tried to search for many very specific topics & the result seems to be 500 hits on some topics & zero on others. I agree some things can be found thru a search but not always

 

All Minis are cool. R56s are newer, but still cool.
I wave at all Minis (especially the really small old ones)
Small, old VWs are cool too.
Any Volvo without a 1 or a 2 in the numbering system is, well, "new".
Carp don't taste good, except maybe breaded and fried.
Anything breaded and fried will be eaten by someone.
I am finished now. My carp, however, has just begun.

 

Hah, the NAM search engine blows. I search for information on specific items and it pulls up 26 pages of nonsense that has NOTHING to do with what i'm searching for. It's actually easier for me to search for people's names when I know who posted in a thread i'm looking for and sort through all their old posts.

 

Who asked for your opinion?

 

VBulletin has proxy detection capabilities, at least, the latest version of the software does. I believe VBulletin can automatically filter and detect IP addresses originating from proxy servers that mask "true" IP addresses. Whether the automatic proxy feature of VBulletin works or not 100% of the time is another matter.

 

I won't go into details but trust me, it can be done .

 

Yes, a lot is possible, but we can at least make things very difficult. There is no perfect solution, but we're not incompetent idiots either.Next time try searching in titles only, instead of the entire body of text. It still isn't perfect, but you won't be stumbling on many threads where someone just happened to say your search words in the text.

 

I've tried that, most of the time it doesn't come up with any hits though. People have a habit of naming the threads with titles that have absolutly nothing to do with the content... lol

 

Yeah & if I try to search for a very specific topic (say a 5 word search) I usually get nada

 

Oh believe me, I'm the first to admit that the search mechanism in vBulletin is lacking. I was just trying to suggest one way to cut down on extra results.

 

And it really would help if post titles actually meant something.

 

A legitimate question with a simple answer ... human nature.

Mine is better (or bigger) than yours .... nah nah nah

I can't tell you how many times I have read things like ...

"My MINI smoked a Ferrari/Porsche/Lambo (you fill in the blank) and I passed them all at DEs" It has gotten so funny, I just write it off as a bit of lack of experience (e.g., there are lots of reasons person A can pass person B at a DE).

There is nothing wrong with having some pride in ownership (yes I know there are a handful of very skilled drivers or 5,000 HP MINIs around but that is not the point).

Well spoken Clark ... Yo Edge ... I kept saying that sibling rivarly in the MINI culture is not a good thing ... kinda sad.

Skip ... if you can ... wait a year. Rumour is DFI next spring ... early MY09 release, 10% OEM increase in HP. But Maybe $4500 will get you 997 power today.

Well written ES

More than ANY other car (I assume you really mean marque) in the industry? Please ... that is exactly what I'm talking about above. Yeah, the MINI walks on water ... No ... it created the water.

With all due respect, a little bit of realism might help the rift between siblings ... and I would say that about most every marque ... take that comment into a Ferrari/Porsche forum and see how far it flies.

Thats not quite accurate. The CS is already faster around the Ring than the 997. What is more HP going to get you? In terms of pure acceleration, ~ $4.5K in bolt-ons will get you 997 HP numbers. You can drop and X51 engine in and get 400 HP, just shy of a GT3 (big money). If your into mods ... TPC racing is about to come out with a Turbo kit (no pricing yet but for about the money most ppl sink into their MINIs in performance mods (well a little bit more). 400 hp.

But cct1, I got to give you credit Your one of the very few people I've come across on the 'net who truely realizes that if you can't drive your current car at 10/10s, more HP will get you nothing but $$ out the window. Investing in yourself first is always the way to go. Well said

Take a look at Mantis Racing, just won PCA Class D at Road Atlanta, and overall 5th behind a GT3RS. Significant mods are "just" starting to come out for the car.

There is also supposed to be several RS test mules in Germany. While the prevailing opinion is that Porsche AG will never allow the CS to compete with the 997 series, nobody knows what the 998 will look like in a few years and may very will be mid-engine (or maybe both rear and mid-engined versions?). After all they do recognize the Carrera GT was top of the line and mid-engine. They may not call it a CS but who knows.

But in general, your right in that the prevailing "thought" is the 911 Icon is sacred.

 

Chows--I'd read somewhere that the Cayman S gear ratios where purposely altered from the original prototype to get the Cayman S's straight line numbers down--it wasn't strictly horsepower and torque that they detuned, although that was part of it too.

I wonder if Porsche down the line will have a special edition Cayman S down the road in a few years--I'm thinking they will. Be interesting. By that time maybe I'll be able to drive it properly.

Down the road, if/when I get enough driving schools/track time in, I'd really consider getting one--but I think for me it'd be overkill. I'd rather get an Elise (and hold on to my MINI forever, which will probably happen regardless of what I get in the future), but the closest Elise dealer is so far away...

 

Drive the Elise, the Exige and the CS on the same day. If you think you're going to be logging a lot of lap time, the Elise/Exige may have some appeal.

However, the Cayman S is a fine car and definately easier to live with day to day.